Great post, and despite the fact I voted Truss I totally agree with you. I shall justify my vote for Truss by saying she did the most damage if you pro-rata it on a daily basis.
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[Politics] Worst PM since Thatcher
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maltaseagull
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Didn´t Ireland have more than one until the desired result was achieved?
worthingweird
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- Mar 8, 2023
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Bliar... as he is a war criminal.
- Jul 10, 2003
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And once again on this same thread, what is this criminal act ?
Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
Hard hard choice between Truss and Johnson.
Had to give it to Johnson on the basis that he was consistently crap over a longer period. A bit like a sewage treatment centre.
Truss was just something unpleasant the cat was burying earlier, and wasn't there long enough - a foul stench that fortunately wafted away in the gale she generated.
Had to give it to Johnson on the basis that he was consistently crap over a longer period. A bit like a sewage treatment centre.
Truss was just something unpleasant the cat was burying earlier, and wasn't there long enough - a foul stench that fortunately wafted away in the gale she generated.
Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
Not being a Tory.
I absolutely agree with all of this. The whole thing took a wrecking ball to the tenuous cohesion of UK society and Cameron did not put in any 'safety precautions' in the in/out vote; the Remain efforts before the vote were pathetic.... and it was all Cameron's responsibility..... and that act delivered the mendacious liar Johnson to us...
Tubby Mondays
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I wonder why people would vote for brown?
Not criticising. Just wonder what he did to make him worse than Truss/Johnson?
Not criticising. Just wonder what he did to make him worse than Truss/Johnson?
No point in voting If I can't choose 5
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,901
So of the 21 who voted Blair, only 3 actually have the balls to put their head above the parapet so sorry to the three of you,
And I know i've asked the question a couple of times and still got no answer, but I'll try again and ask why ? Two of you quote the war, so what was it he actually did ?
An answer would be appreciated, Thanks
And I know i've asked the question a couple of times and still got no answer, but I'll try again and ask why ? Two of you quote the war, so what was it he actually did ?
An answer would be appreciated, Thanks
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I felt sorry for him, The most capable man on that list, desperate for the job and handed a Chernobyl hot mouldy potato
not the most charismatic nor media friendly /savvy on the list which is what wins these days.
Which merely confirms, the majority of voters are f***ing idiots. I'll rephrase that, a danger to the moral majority . . . . Who only have themselves to blame for not voting.
They're all c***s out there!
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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I've never understood this point of view, so maybe you can help me out, H. Cameron was effectively on the losing team and the referendum was effectively the dreaded 'vote of confidence' in him and his leadership. In my opinion, he couldn't have carried on because he would be trying to implement something that he (apparently) didn't believe was the right thing to do for the future of the country. And yes, he called the election, but the people voted for it. If they REALLY didn't want it, the result would be a bit different to 52:48.
I get that it looks like he walked away – "to Nice, wiv 'is trotters up. (TWAT!)" – but can you imagine the pro-Brexit lot being happy about him leading us out of Europe when he wanted to keep us in? He was on borrowed time and if he hadn't have jumped, he would've been pushed. The following years have shown there's no shortage of fellow MPs who are willing to fack over members of their own party.
BTW: Please don't take any of that as a defence of the guy. I generally can't really contain my indifference about politics, but I just think, objectively, it's not as clear cut as being solely down to him.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,901
I agree completely that he couldn't stay after the referendum but who was solely responsible for that totally ridiculous idea
He was so scared that he would lose a few seats to a man that failed to get a seat in Parliament despite trying seven times and got beaten in a parliamentary vote by somebody in a dolphin costume, that he panicked and decided on a referendum for the country
The Conservative party always had a problem with their extreme right (Major's 'Those bastards') but he honestly thought he could paper over the cracks with the most stupid proposal ever. The electorate proved what we've always suspected and here we are
I used to get annoyed, but I now find the position of bemused bystander far less stressful.
Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite
Sorry. (I voted Johnson, but with Cameron a close second).
Give him credit, he tried.
he presided over the best years of my life, it's been f***ing shit since really, politically that is.
Which further highlights what most (sane) people agree . . . A sharing caring (bit left) Artistically engaged & varied society (left) with a keen eye on the budget ( right but both . . . If you don't just read the daily mail/torygraph) and international partisanship (neither, the spineless wankers)and a willingness to share ( left) would be the winningest choice.
It's like we need a kind of democratic liberal party.
One can but wish.
a big whiff of green would help too . .Obvs.
bluenitsuj
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Nothing wrong with Thatcher
Tubby Mondays
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He was a politician and not a personality. Should’ve called an election when he got the keys to number 10.
Would’ve won.
nicko31
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The Channel 4 doc on the rise and fall of Johnson I found depressing but also a compelling watch. The presence of Corbyn created perfect conditions for such a lying charlatan to take control of this country.
Please never never again anything like that, I really hope a lesson was learnt.
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Tubby Mondays
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He's terminally unlucky at thinking; you won't get a plausible answer..
Not anymore