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The Clamp

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Should they be banned?

Irrelevance.

They already are. They are a pit bull breed and should not be owned by anyone.

At the very least they should have a muzzling order on them.

I have no idea why anyone other than a criminal moron would want to own such an ugly, dangerous, monster. Let alone have it in the house.

I’d like to see the breed wiped out.

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Chicken Run

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BN9 BHA said:
Cowboy boots are bad enough…..but with shorts :facepalm:
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I know right…..

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happypig

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Bold Seagull said:
He wasn't one for exaggerating either. When the dog lifted itself off the ground with the garden fork still hanging from it and came at them again he said it was like a horror movie, blood everywhere, screaming, pretty unimaginable. He got it done though and saved both his wife's and her dad's lives who was also attacked.

These breeds don't really feel pain when fighting - hence over hundreds of years they were bred for fighting because they don't stop until one of them is dead. Anyone thinking that in the throws of a savage attack they're just going to be able to get a knife out - it's going to have to be a big f***ing knife!!
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I read an interview with a small-town American policeman many years ago. He got called to a Rottweiler attack and had to shoot it with his police-issue six shot .38 revolver. He reckons he put five into it and it barely slowed it. His partner put several more into it before the thing finally carked it. After that he started carrying a .45 (ironically, he never had to fire it).
When these things go into “attack mode” it takes a lot to stop them.
 
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schmunk

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Bold Seagull said:
Many years ago a Staffy or a Staffy like cross, maybe similar to an XL attacked my neighbour's wife while visiting relatives.

My neighbour rushed into the garden to help her, grabbed a garden fork and stuck it through the dog's neck through to the ground to pin it there. As he tried to get his wife inside, the dog's strength and determination lifted the garden fork out of the ground and continued to attack them with the garden fork still sticking out of it's neck. Fortunately that gave him the chance to grab the handle again, the dog slid itself off the garden fork, and he then stabbed the dog through the neck again, and this time stamped it firmly into the ground with the dog still going nuts.

The dog was still thrashing about when the police arrived and destroyed it. This was all in the news at the time, and his wife suffered some pretty horrorific injuries. So in answer to your question, the question would be, how big is your knife?
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That sounds like a Curious Incident...
 
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The Fits

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Despite my earlier messages (I'm very much pro the ban from previous experience) i had a very sad incident yesterday.
Have got very friendly with a guy, really rough around the ages but good hearted and has a cross breed, Luna. She's the same age as my dog and they've been best buddies since pups. My dog is a third of her size, spunky but ultimately a wimp, have never hesitated In them playing, Luna clearly loves my dog.
Luna was on a lead in the park we both live next too. I hadn't seen them for ages. I didn't even think she'd be one of the banned breeds. Since she's been muzzled and on the lead her personality has completely changed. He's now worried about her behaviour (he lives with young nieces and nephews and other dogs), and increase in aggression. As he told me about the change and that he is now thinking about getting rid of her he broke down in tears. It has to be done, I suppose, but it's very sad.
 
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herecomesaregular

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The Fits said:
Despite my earlier messages (I'm very much pro the ban from previous experience) i had a very sad incident yesterday.
Have got very friendly with a guy, really rough around the ages but good hearted and has a cross breed, Luna. She's the same age as my dog and they've been best buddies since pups. My dog is a third of her size, spunky but ultimately a wimp, have never hesitated In them playing, Luna clearly loves my dog.
Luna was on a lead in the park we both live next too. I hadn't seen them for ages. I didn't even think she'd be one of the banned breeds. Since she's been muzzled and on the lead her personality has completely changed. He's now worried about her behaviour (he lives with young nieces and nephews and other dogs), and increase in aggression. As he told me about the change and that he is now thinking about getting rid of her he broke down in tears. It has to be done, I suppose, but it's very sad.
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That is sad to read but there's personality and there's genetics. These things are cross bred on basis of genetic tendency to aggression. I think staffies are lovely dogs for instance, always good with children etc etc. But for 100s of years they were bred for fighting and less aggressive dogs destroyed and the more aggressive ones bred. Now for recent decades they are no longer bred for fighting but the historic genetics are still in them and I would never have a staffy (despite liking nearly every one I've met) because you just don't know when That Switch might turn on.
 
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Bold Seagull

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I am a dog lover but nobody should be able to keep one of those. Appreciate .they have to be muzzled outside but all the incidents happen when they get out of house. and I no to well dogs get out at any opportunity.
I must admit taking our dog for a walk is often not the pleasure it was with some of the agressive dogs about
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Most of the 'aggressive' dogs out and about aren't aggressive, they are fear reactive and a lot of that is from lack of socialisation during covid.

Most perceived dog aggression, even if it looks like an attack to our eyes isn't for the dogs, it is one dog trying to hide it's fear by trying to show how tough it is but actually has no intention of attacking. It's a lot of noise and barking and looking bad, but isn't - thankfully.

Hope you can find the pleasure in still walking, I found I've got a lot better at reading dog body language over time, and getting better at spotting when my dog may react to another or one to him.
 
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The Fits

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herecomesaregular said:
That is sad to read but there's personality and there's genetics. These things are cross bred on basis of genetic tendency to aggression. I think staffies are lovely dogs for instance, always good with children etc etc. But for 100s of years they were bred for fighting and less aggressive dogs destroyed and the more aggressive ones bred. Now for recent decades they are no longer bred for fighting but the historic genetics are still in them and I would never have a staffy (despite liking nearly every one I've met) because you just don't know when That Switch might turn on.
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Definitely. The very saddest part was the realisation of my friend that maybe Luna is potentially dangerous. For such a lovey dog to be a threat really highlights the issue.
 
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Triggaaar

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The Clamp said:
Yes, out and about but in the house? Who could seriously feel at ease with that stalking their drawing room?
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I imagine they're fine with their owners, whom they see as part of their pack.
 
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Triggaaar

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The Clamp said:
Should they be banned?

Irrelevance.

They already are.
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Not quite. Owners had to register them, but they're still allowed to keep them.

DJ Spoony owns one and was on the radio saying how it's all fine etc. Twat (him, not you)
 
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portlock seagull

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Bold Seagull said:
Most of the 'aggressive' dogs out and about aren't aggressive, they are fear reactive and a lot of that is from lack of socialisation during covid.

Most perceived dog aggression, even if it looks like an attack to our eyes isn't for the dogs, it is one dog trying to hide it's fear by trying to show how tough it is but actually has no intention of attacking. It's a lot of noise and barking and looking bad, but isn't - thankfully.

Hope you can find the pleasure in still walking, I found I've got a lot better at reading dog body language over time, and getting better at spotting when my dog may react to another or one to him.
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It’s not just dogs that missed out on socialisation during covid.

I find the sheer volume of “don’t do this, don’t do that” type notices that have gone up aimed at dog owners has markedly increased.

Concur about dog mess. Less easy to stop a dog weeing. Yes, dog notices up in fields or parks where dogs are allowed to run freely and yet lots of notices demanding people don’t do this, don’t allow to bark, think of the wildlife blah blah blah. It all points towards people just more and more angry at everything. And yes, I am a responsible dog owner but I’ve not cracked being psychic if eg a duck lands near my dog, or my dog decides to wee on a patch of grass that’s public access.
 
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The Clamp

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portlock seagull said:
It’s not just dogs that missed out on socialisation during covid.

I find the sheer volume of “don’t do this, don’t do that” type notices that have gone up aimed at dog owners has markedly increased.

Concur about dog mess. Less easy to stop a dog weeing. Yes, dog notices up in fields or parks where dogs are allowed to run freely and yet lots of notices demanding people don’t do this, don’t allow to bark, think of the wildlife blah blah blah. It all points towards people just more and more angry at everything. And yes, I am a responsible dog owner but I’ve not cracked being psychic if eg a duck lands near my dog, or my dog decides to wee on a patch of grass that’s public access.
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Although I think you’ve made a good point there.
 
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Chicken Run

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portlock seagull said:
It’s not just dogs that missed out on socialisation during covid.

I find the sheer volume of “don’t do this, don’t do that” type notices that have gone up aimed at dog owners has markedly increased.
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This is because the sheer number of dog owners has markedly increased during the Covid era i’d imagine
 
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