This reminds me of a guy I met in a bar when I was backpacking around the US when a student. He had a limp and scarring around the thigh and knee. He was cleaning a loaded hand gun……
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Baldseagull
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Very sad case, crazy that anyone gives free access to a gun, to any teenager. Crazy that isn't illegal itself. Crazy to lock up a kid for the rest of his days for an act committed at age 15, without any hope. I know some won't agree with me on the last point.
Absolutely. It makes no sense. Why does the "right to carry guns" have to mean any / all type of guns? Why can this not be redefined? When that "law" was written, I don't think even rifles had been invented.
happypig
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In the 80s I used to work with a feller who had several guns which he used to shoot at competitions and on ranges. He was a very capable, competent and safety conscious owner. One evening he was cleaning his guns in a B&B where he was staying and he put a round through the floor into the room below.
The second amendment was put into the constitution in 1791, when there were only really single-shot muzzle-loaders. To apply it to 21st century multi-shot magazine-fed weapons is absurd. They should (but won’t) introduce a licensing system for anything more than a manually loaded, 3-round shotgun, similar to what we have.
Brok
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Yes, me for one.
It’s mad how they can’t see that their beloved constitution probably didn’t have automatic assault rifles in mind when saying people should be allowed to own a musket that takes a minute to reload.
GT49er
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Fair play to the U.S. justice system - for once they got it absolutely right.
Baldseagull
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What t
They should have access to all the conventional weapons the USAF has, if they really want to be able to defend themselves against USAF. As that is clearly insane, the amendment needs amending.
What they had in mind was that the citizens should have the ability to resist an oppressive Government.
They should have access to all the conventional weapons the USAF has, if they really want to be able to defend themselves against USAF. As that is clearly insane, the amendment needs amending.
Baldseagull
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If he is fully responsible at age 15, why are his parents being jailed too?
They’ll probably sue their own son now for damages, and win.I mean, when your teenage son is mentally unwell do you really think it would help matters by purchasing him a semi automatic handgun?
Words fail. They really do. What? Why? How?!! How on earth are you even allowed to give him one, never mind what then transpired because of your idiocy?
Ethan Crumbley: Parents of Michigan school gunman sentenced to at least 10 years
The parents of Ethan Crumbley, a Michigan school shooter, were sentenced to at least 10 years in prison.www.bbc.co.uk
GT49er
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Criminal irresponsibility and stupidity. It's a fair cop., as was the full life sentence - although it would probably been kinder if the cops had just gunned him down like they usually do!
Brok
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Sorry, but he quite obviously is not responsible at age 15. The parents knew this.
Within 5 minutes of being bought a gun, this little shit went out and deliberately caused as much carnage as he could.
He is now locked up for the rest of his life Good.
The parents are equally to blame because, basically, if they thought their son had fantasies of killing people, then the worst thing they could have done is buy the gun and ammunition for this little monster.
So in a way they are just as responsible for this tragedy as he is.
Will it change anything in America because of this case? No, probably not.
Baldseagull
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I am fully behind the parents being jailed, it's the whole life term, with no opportunity for parole, for a mentally troubled 15 year old that doesn't sit right with me.
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
You're comparing apples and pear there. And talking complete rubbish.
Baldseagull
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I agree, he is not responsible at age 15, yet was tried as an adult and given a life sentence with no parole.
It does not seem just to hold a 65 year old man in prison for something he did in a state of depression when he was 15, his frontal cortex was underdeveloped, and was being raised by careless parents, no matter how he has conducted himself in the intervening 50 years.
I believe almost everyone is redeemable, especially children.
Wannabe Gamekeeper Jnr Stats take away from the horrific story was:-
'how did he only kill 4 people when firing a semi automatic assault rifle?'
#Comforting.
'how did he only kill 4 people when firing a semi automatic assault rifle?'
#Comforting.
Baldseagull
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Semi automatic handgun, less power than a rifle, he injured 7 others. He also had two more magazines of 15 rounds on him and rounds in the gun when he handed it over to the officer that confronted him.
Cotton Socks
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#BloodyFortnite&COD
I'm sure he didn't mean it in the way it came across, they just don't know what to say.
I don't think Fortnite or COD turns them into (complete) maniacs either, just the odd broken controller. 
Oh no he did - he's a hard grafting country boy in his Shoffel (sp) gilet and thin checked cotton shirts.#BloodyFortnite&COD
I'm sure he didn't mean it in the way it came across, they just don't know what to say.
Calab from Clarkson's Farm is his hero.
He's at his happiest when covered in entrails.
#SoComforting
Cotton Socks
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Well I think Caleb is a lovely chap if that helps.
I do actually think Caleb is great so he could have a lot worse hero's!I'm unsure what to say about the entrails.