GT49er
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Agree with some of that, including the Sanchez bit - but sad loser? No - I don't think a majority - or even a minority - think that. But he certainly seems to think very highly of himself!
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[Albion] RDZ’s mentality and ‘balls’
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Was maybe one or two weeks early with the sad loser part save it for later
- Oct 20, 2022
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Not quite - RDZ was Fati’s choice. Dahoud May have been recommended by RDZ but if our scouts and starlizard stats did not back up the wisdom of signing him and thought he would be an investment, then we would not have done. He just didn’t gel that’s all - it happens.
The Fits
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- Jun 29, 2020
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Especially the Fati deal.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Yes imo we do know Fati chose Brighton because of RDZ - or rather it was Barca that recognised the work RDZ was doing at Brighton was comparable in style (and thus a logical loan destination) to Pep’s ex-Barcelona possession based football so gave Fati the best chance of continuing his rehab/conditioning. RDZ had a phone call quite late on in the proceedings so was instrumental in convincing Fati but the Club didn’t need convincing, Fati was a prodigy, known throughout Europe and we were already some way along in the process by the time RDZ convinced him. David Weir said at the time "We are delighted to bring Ansu to the club. He is one of the most highly-rated young players in the world and arrives with an impressive amount of experience both domestically and in European competition, despite his age”.
I don’t know about Dahoud- just going on what I heard on here that RDZ apparently recommended him but he is an older player we got in a free transfer, it isn’t really a big deal in the greater scheme of things yet it’s become a sort of anti- De Zerbi trope to mention Dahoud ( who is incidentally earning us money as a loan player so it’s not all bad!) ).
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American Seagle
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- Jun 14, 2022
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Maybe he should show some balls and deal with it then? You know, like he keeps going on about. Sulking doesn't help.
HastingsSeagull
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If we end up well in the bottom half, will whatever massive club is taking him still take him?
Will our memory of him in 5 years be nearly as positive? Took our Potterball top 4 side to 6th and then bottom half? (Last part mostly in jest but not 100%)
Will our memory of him in 5 years be nearly as positive? Took our Potterball top 4 side to 6th and then bottom half? (Last part mostly in jest but not 100%)
Baldseagull
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Not great today, but I have seen us play a lot worse against lesser opposition under the last 2 managers.
Flounce
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I think confidence has taken a massive hit since Rome, it happens and combined with the loss of 2 great engines in the squad and the injuries, the wheels have come off to a degree. This may sound daft and straw clutching but I am struggling to remember the last time we got the rub of the green at both ends of the pitch too.
It seems the season is over though I agree but, who as a long term fan, didn’t know in the back of their minds that something like this was inevitable after the blinding season and a half we have had? Most smaller clubs hit a brick wall after periods of over achieving. It just happened to us.
So many on this thread seem to want to throw the baby out with the bathwater though. Too many over reactions and/or a worrying sense of entitlement
It seems the season is over though I agree but, who as a long term fan, didn’t know in the back of their minds that something like this was inevitable after the blinding season and a half we have had? Most smaller clubs hit a brick wall after periods of over achieving. It just happened to us.
So many on this thread seem to want to throw the baby out with the bathwater though. Too many over reactions and/or a worrying sense of entitlement
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Pretty sure he was just trying to set reasonable expectations.
Robinjakarta
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Oh, the irony!
That doesn’t really stack up. Apart from Shakthar arguably, he’s never really had an ‘elite’ squad. His reputation is built on getting the absolute best out of players to make them ‘elite’ and he’s clearly excellent at developing youngsters.
In that sense, we’re a great fit for his talents. The trouble is he wants to be somewhere that he can enjoy the fruits of his labour and not see the team broken up. That’s the flaw in our model for any ambitious upcoming coach. Not our style but for ‘the project’ I think we probably need a boss who’s already well established and isn’t likely to get poached by a glamour club, maybe because they’ve had that opportunity before. Mind you, plenty of clubs have done okay changing bosses every 2-3 years so maybe it’s not a guaranteed disaster.
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I’d argue that last season we had a pretty elite squad and very few injuries. Two world class players in midfield. Mitoma, Solly, Enciso, Pervis fit all season. Colwill in defence. We had better squads than most of the league, including some of the big clubs. Our squad last year was better than Spurs, for example. Better than United. Better than Newcastle. They had a couple of better individuals but as a squad I would have taken ours over everyone other than Arsenal, Liverpool and City.
Let’s not forget if we were not robbed at Spurs by pure corruption it is very plausible we would have finished in the top 4. That not only killed us that day but also for a few weeks after too.
My point is that RDZ has not adapted well enough to the variables such as injuries.
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I'd certainly agree with that. We've still done pretty well in the grand scheme of things but it's felt like some pragmatism at times would have eked out a few more results against the lesser teams. The things that frustrate me tend to be pretty basic - like Adringra at Brentford never trying to go past the full back. When sides sit deep, it seems obvious that if you get to the byline and cut the ball back it's much more difficult to defend.... increased chance of an own goal, if nothing else. Retaining possession at all costs doesn't seem to work in those scenarios but then what do I know?
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I agree with all of the above and while there is no present alternative options, in recent weeks I start looking at the centre mid as being a big part of it. WBG goes backwards too often, great player but needs to move forwards with more dynamism which is what Baleba is starting to show.
And Gross, whom I love and has great feet is slowing it all down too imho.
When we counter, or break lines we have to keep moving forward with pace whilst the oppo are out of position. Too often we stop, cut back and it fizzles out as oppo get back organised.
Central mid is key here. More pace, more forward thinking dynamism needed. Its pedestrian at times
Justice
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What’s he meant to have done you’ve argued on one hand our team last season was superior and then knocked the guy for not winning games with a lesser squad and an injury pile up
According to The Athletic today, he is still one of the most over performing managers.
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Roberto seems almost broken in his post match comments it is very sad to see after the absolute breath of fresh air he has been for 19 months. I am still 100% behind him and do not doublt his ability and potential. We need to dust off in the summer and go again with hopefully all the players fit and a few new additions. This season will fizzle out with about 47 points and 13th but it has been a fantastic and successful time with Roberto so far
Deadly Danson
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I think this is where I am and agree with every word. Clearly RDZ is a great coach and, all things considered, finishing anywhere around 10th or so is fine this season (and in fact any season). I would like him to stay. But, he is not immune from criticism. I'm not amused by his constant excuses in every presser nor by his comments about the transfer window and it has to be said tactically we have been found out a lot. It also feels like we are all waiting for him to decide if he deigns to grace us with his presence next season which I'm not overly comfortable with. But if we are looking for the best possible coach for next season (assuming he's motivated) then RDZ is the man.