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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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- Aug 24, 2020
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Did you see he used the Trump signature hand gesture at 1:48? He's talking to Trump in his own sign language.
He's pushing Trump's 'everyone needs to pay their bills' routine. That should go down a storm with the orange one.
GT49er
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Can't disagree with any of that.
As per Reuters... six at least
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- Ukraine attacked Russia's Morozovsk military air base in the Rostov region, destroying six Russian warplanes in a joint operation conducted by the SBU security service and military, a Kyiv intelligence source told Reuters.
Very good piece from Dave
- Aug 24, 2020
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As previously reported, Nato met to ringfence and Trump-proof aid to Ukraine.
Stoltenberg has already called for more effort from Nato member nations to help Ukraine.
Cameron's walk through the impressive Nato complex was a strong message to all audiences - Ukraine, Putin, US Congress, Trump, EU, domestic UK audience etc.
It was a shame about the slip up near the end. Other than that, it was a polished performance.
Now to the small matter of delivery. After that message, I can't see Nato members not delivering, in that they - should - contribute at least 2% of GDP.
It will be interesting to see how Trump reacts. Will he be pleased? Or will he find some other reason to stir the pot?
Stoltenberg has already called for more effort from Nato member nations to help Ukraine.
Cameron's walk through the impressive Nato complex was a strong message to all audiences - Ukraine, Putin, US Congress, Trump, EU, domestic UK audience etc.
It was a shame about the slip up near the end. Other than that, it was a polished performance.
Now to the small matter of delivery. After that message, I can't see Nato members not delivering, in that they - should - contribute at least 2% of GDP.
It will be interesting to see how Trump reacts. Will he be pleased? Or will he find some other reason to stir the pot?
fly high
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Slight edit to strengthen comment.
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The good thing is that Trump cannot pull the US out of NATO without a 2/3rds Senate approval.
The bad thing is that he could still refuse an Article 5 call to arms although the pressure on him at that point may just make that temporary.
I hope that we don't get to find out.
The bad thing is that he could still refuse an Article 5 call to arms although the pressure on him at that point may just make that temporary.
I hope that we don't get to find out.
GT49er
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Trump will always find a (totally spurious) reason to 'stir the pot'. Needs taking out as much as Putin - he's a danger to the world too.
Within, also claims of many other planes damaged
BBC News - Ukraine war: Six Russian planes destroyed by drones, says Kyiv
BBC News - Ukraine war: Six Russian planes destroyed by drones, says Kyiv
Ukraine war: Six Russian planes destroyed by drones, says Kyiv
Security sources tell the BBC another eight bombers were badly damaged in the attack.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Trump is all about Trump.
He'll throw Ukraine, NATO and allies under the bus If Putin can help him back into power.
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- Aug 24, 2020
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There's more.......
That was a very busy night. Trying to get my head around the logistical planning of multiple drones being sent to multiple sites, each being programmed and presumably camera-operator controlled in the final minutes: excellent planning and execution.
I feel you may need to post that every time someone spreads their propaganda here
vegster
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It's a massive undertaking but swamping a target with multiple drones increases the likelihood of success as air defence systems expend their missiles. Drones costing a few £Thou getting knocked out by missiles costing £100 thou is still a win for Ukraine..
It is indeed, and sounds like there was major success in terms of destruction of Russian planes.
The current expensive method of knocking drones from the sky with missiles also counts against Ukraine's defense costs as well of course.
Some behind the scenes thoughts on what's happening in the US about the Ukrainian aid package.