Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Absolutely. Saying that, all that is needed after ‘whoever briefed this up seems to be’ is ‘a ****’.
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
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What is the definition of "a nuisance"? Who will decide what constitutes "a nuisance"?
And therein lies the first problem with such a scheme.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
We had homeless people in court for low level stuff (drunk and disorderly, harassment etc) and when they’ve not got any money it wasn’t uncommon to sentence them to a fine (plus victim surcharge & costs) then commute that to “one day court detention” due to no means to pay. What that actually means is they have to sit at the back of the court until the session is finished (or if they are the last case of the session, it’s “one day court detention deemed served”).
Yep - which just goes to prove that it is completely pointless legislating for a fine. Would far rather see them spending their time and effort legislating to "impose a penalty" that is designed to try to help the homeless onto a pathway off the streets. It's a complete waste of court and police resources going down the route you've outlined.
Of course, the current government has been led by a bunch of **** who've removed so much funding from social support programs that there probably isn't a viable alternative at the moment. Which, incidentally, is going to become a problem for Labour when crime rates inevitably spike off the back of it, given I believe it's now too late to reverse the situation fast enough to prevent it happening.
TomandJerry
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Senior Conservative party officials worked on plans to hand over its entire membership database for a commercial venture that promised to make tens of millions of pounds, the Guardian can reveal.
Leaked documents show Tory executives discussed exploiting members’ personal data to build a mobile phone app that could track users’ locations and allow big brands to advertise to Conservative supporters. The party would take a cut of sales.
Leaked documents show Tory executives discussed exploiting members’ personal data to build a mobile phone app that could track users’ locations and allow big brands to advertise to Conservative supporters. The party would take a cut of sales.
It’s Blue-on-Blue warfare
Machiavelli
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Yes, this does reveal core differences in the Tory Party, but they've been abundantly evident for a while now, and will be with us for much if not all of the next parliament (potentially even beyond that).
It also reveals the extent to which Israel has set the agenda recently. They do this quite simply. They associate Palestine/Palestinians with Hamas who they denounce as terrorists and/or ISIS, and they also attack any critics of Israel as antisemites and Jew-haters on spurious grounds.
If anyone has been paying close attention to politics and IR over the last few decades, this is abundantly obvious. One of the ways in which this has been conducted, and has proved so popular among the political contributors of NSC, is to state quite confidently that Corbyn is antisemitic and, when evidence is asked for this claim, the usual strategy is to obfuscate and deflect.
None of this is to deny that Corbyn wasn't a hopeless, ineffectual leader of the Labour Party who allowed antisemitism to fester in the Labour Party. It is to deny that there is scant evidence to claim that he's antisemitic (which is what is widely believed), whereas there's plentiful evidence to launch a case that, for instance, Boris Johnson is a racist -- and that there's no equivalence between the two.
TomandJerry
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Death by a thousand cuts
Ministers will cut funding for performing and creative arts courses at English universities next year, which sector leaders say will further damage the country’s cultural industries.
The cuts, outlined by the education secretary, Gillian Keegan, in guidance to the universities regulator, will also further reduce funding for Uni-Connect, which runs programmes aimed at widening access to higher education for those from disadvantaged backgrounds, down to £20m, a third of its 2020-21 budget.
Ministers will cut funding for performing and creative arts courses at English universities next year, which sector leaders say will further damage the country’s cultural industries.
The cuts, outlined by the education secretary, Gillian Keegan, in guidance to the universities regulator, will also further reduce funding for Uni-Connect, which runs programmes aimed at widening access to higher education for those from disadvantaged backgrounds, down to £20m, a third of its 2020-21 budget.
ClemFandango
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You appear to have forgotten that Hamas carried out a massacre of October 7 and are currently holding over 100 people hostage
clapham_gull
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The best analysis and criticism of the far left's issue issue with antisemitism comes from the far left itself, I've just read a fascinating article.
Their "issue" is more complex than a reaction to the Israeli Government's abhorrent behaviour. It's fused with anti-capitalism and long standing conspiracy theories that festered within Marxist ideology.
It's a subject that has fascinated me for years (as has the far right) and I've read a lot about it. I suggest you hunt out the same. It's always more enlightening to listen to those close to the problem (and those who call it out often at their expense) rather those who attempt to make political capital out it as you imply your colleagues on NSC do.
Corbyn let it happen because he simply didn't realise it was a problem. Not that different from the position the Tories now find themselves.
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clapham_gull
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I'm really bad with complex dramas on TV which is why I refuse to watch them. I've often annoyed the other half by asking her to rewind what I've just seen because I've become instantly confused.
I've rewound the above ten times and I'm still confused.
BenGarfield
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How do you define the "far left" ? What are these issues to which you refer, and what are these long standing conspiracy theories? A link to the article would be useful
clapham_gull
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I'm a great fan of Karl Marx, his critique of capitalism is second to none, but he had a difficult second album. Those who still think his niche second album was the greatest album ever produced are the far left. Like those odd Queen fans who think Hot Space was their greatest work.
I'm not on here to be helpful to you. If you confront the issue first, it's easy to find what you require. I suggest you help yourself.
The deflection is actually Corbyn. Left wing politics has a long history of antisemitism, something it has failed to truly embrace. The failure to embrace it has led the right of politics (which has a more obvious history) to take the moral high ground. Something that should be deeply embarresing.
Why view point doesn't make me right wing, a "centrist" a Blairite or fan of Starmer, it just makes me a realist.
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After the revolution and installation of a Marxist government, all critiques of capitalism will be equal.
clapham_gull
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Always better to apologise before someone threatens a legal action even if written in crayon.
Thunder Bolt
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In other words, a security risk, open to blackmail. Resign.
Pevenseagull
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Thunder Bolt
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It is believed two of the 12 MPs also sent pictures. This is the MP who called the National Trust 'woke'.