[Albion] Gut feeling - RDZ staying or going after this season?

Guinness Boy said:

I honestly can't believe the amount of bedwetting on here after every single press conference. I'm going to have to reduce this down to bullet points:

• If Liverpool, or Real Madrid or Bayren come calling in the summer then he'll leave. End of. We can't compete.
• There's no guarantee they will
• The summer will be unlike many other transfer windows. There will be clubs who have to sell talent, probably cut price to make sustainability / profit rules.
• We will be in a position to pick some of that talent up. We won't have to sell. But we also won't put ourselves in a position where it's us next who are up before the beak. I genuinely think TB and PBOBE are looking at Everton, Forest, Chelsea et al and GIGGLING. Staying within the limits is finally to our advantage. But we WILL stay within those limits.
• If the plan for next season that's constructed within the parameters of point four is acceptable to RDZ and point 1 hasn't happened, he'll stay. Else he'll go. He won't go mid-season and take the tea-lady with him though.
• If he goes the club will have an excellent succession plan. And, finally and most importantly.....
• RDZ says some things in press conferences to throw off opponents. He says some things in an English as a second language syntax that would be subtly different in meaning in Italian. He says other things to reinforce positions he's made internally within the club.

Anyone getting their knickers in a knot after every presser question probably needs a new hobby.

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Guinness Boy said:

I honestly can't believe the amount of bedwetting on here after every single press conference. I'm going to have to reduce this down to bullet points:

• If Liverpool, or Real Madrid or Bayren come calling in the summer then he'll leave. End of. We can't compete.
• There's no guarantee they will
• The summer will be unlike many other transfer windows. There will be clubs who have to sell talent, probably cut price to make sustainability / profit rules.
• We will be in a position to pick some of that talent up. We won't have to sell. But we also won't put ourselves in a position where it's us next who are up before the beak. I genuinely think TB and PBOBE are looking at Everton, Forest, Chelsea et al and GIGGLING. Staying within the limits is finally to our advantage. But we WILL stay within those limits.
• If the plan for next season that's constructed within the parameters of point four is acceptable to RDZ and point 1 hasn't happened, he'll stay. Else he'll go. He won't go mid-season and take the tea-lady with him though.
• If he goes the club will have an excellent succession plan. And, finally and most importantly.....
• RDZ says some things in press conferences to throw off opponents. He says some things in an English as a second language syntax that would be subtly different in meaning in Italian. He says other things to reinforce positions he's made internally within the club.

Anyone getting their knickers in a knot after every presser question probably needs a new hobby.

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Weststander said:

That's my assessment.

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BiffyBoy100 said:

I was curious from the badge

Who do Liverpool want as the next manager now Alonso is out? - that’s got to be a horrible role to go into after Klopp / FSG in charge.

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macbeth said:

ball is in tony’s court, completely. obviously there is a financial ceiling which the club probably won’t go above, but that doesn’t negate the fact that the recruitment to replace our two big sales last summer was poor, and there are several glaring holes in the team that simply weren’t addressed.

i think it’s silly to suggest we can’t match RDZ’s ambition at the moment. there is very much a middle ground between us going out and spending £75M on players on £200Kpw wages and replaced £150Ms worth of talent with a free transfer and someone who has been deemed two raw to start for the vast majority of the season. i think if we loved to that middle ground, RDZ would renew. it’s just a question as to whether tony wants to

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METALMICKY said:

So here's the dilemma for tomorrow. Do we derail the Klop premier league push ' love in ' ? Or the papers are leading us to believe that tomorrow is the audition for the Liverpool job and would we prefer he ' fluffs' his lines badly and puts them off?

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Southern Scouse said:

Long time WS, hope your well!

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Jim in the West said:

Personally I can't see either Liverpool or Bayern being interested. They will both (rightly) be aiming to win their domestic leagues, at least one domestic cup, and the Champions League. All that is way beyond RdZ at the moment. Look what happened in his first big Europa League test - a naive 4-0 defeat!! Liverpool and Bayern will need someone with genuine European pedigree, who can hold their own against the likes of Pep. Surprised that Unai Emery isn't being talked about more (for the Liverpool job, at least).
I love what RdZ is doing at good ol' BHAFC....but imho he needs to do a bit more (probably not with us) before he gets one of the top jobs.

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Exilegull said:

I see it as the ball being in Robertos court. We are never ever going to match his ambition to sign his preferred players that he will use for five minutes before binning them and then moaning he never got a midfielder. We cant keep loaning out talented midfielders like Leonard and Alzate while signing first team players Roberto demand but wont use. He will have to grow up a bit or leave

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Justice said:

Isn’t that a tad harsh to judge Kudus was apparently his pick and would have been a very good signing. The club don’t always get it right.

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Exilegull said:

I see it as the ball being in Robertos court. We are never ever going to match his ambition to sign his preferred players that he will use for five minutes before binning them and then moaning he never got a midfielder. We cant keep loaning out talented midfielders like Leonard and Alzate while signing first team players Roberto demand but wont use. He will have to grow up a bit or leave

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

Yeah, it's really unsettling having a manager who is working on a non-contract basis.

Hang on.....

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Exilegull said:

Not seen much West ham this season and wont do it either but I dont think Kudus is playing in centre midfield? Would of been a good signing from what Ive read but think it would have been instead of Fati not Dahoud

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macbeth said:

i think that’s a very revised version of what’s happened. it’s ridiculous to say we are never going to match RDZ’s ambition to sign his preferred players. had events panned out slightly differently with palmer and kudus in the summer then the narrative surrounding de zerbi’s backing would be very different. as it was, they didn’t and the recruitment in the midfield was poor.

i’m also not sure where the ‘binning them off’ part of the post comes from. the majority of our new signings have been given significant playing time. dahoud hasn’t panned out, okay, but what is roberto supposed to do in that scenario? just continue playing him because he was ‘his guy’? and as poor as the midfield recruitment was, there was nothing on paper last summer to suggest alzate and leonard would be any better. frankly i’m not sure either will ever establish themselves here, certainly i think that ship has sailed for alzate.

i wouldn’t disagree that maybe the way his grievances have been handled has been immature. i think he needs to get on with the job, and if he’s going in the summer then go quietly, because i do think it’s had an impact on morale. i just think the idea that the gap between RDZ and tony is insurmountable is far from true

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