[Albion] Gut feeling - RDZ staying or going after this season?

GT49er said:

As will de Zerbi's tactics against Rome, and a series of poor results against bottom of the table sides, be deemed a disgrace once he has walked out on us for a big pay day ("He never was that good, really - I thought he was sh*t all along" will probably be the new mantra of the more entitled NSCers). The sun, of course, will shine out of the new manager's arse, and no dissention will be considered acceptable, no matter how many GKs he rotates.

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Terry Butcher Tribute Act said:

I don't think it's the same at all.

GPot took 2 and a half seasons to start getting results - albeit the team in season one was deep in an Ashworth transformation to a young, technical team. But that second season side should have been much better.

RDZ took a better side to Europe playing some blistering football in the process. Had he not needed about 5 games to implement his style we'd probably have got Champions League.

Should this seasons team be doing better having sold and not replaced the crown Jewels in midfield and suffered an unprecedented injury crisis on top, including losing March and Mitoma, the two catalysts for attacking success last season? Well in some games (Luton, Sheffield at home) yes, in others, i am not so sure.

Either way I think RDZ has his faults, but hasn't been backed enough to succeed this season, whatever success is - our current 8th and Europa last 16 wasn't bad. But he'll be missed unless we come up trumps with another brilliant appointment who doesn't need 3 years to hit the ground running, and has the pull to appeal to replacements we badly need in centre midfield, out wide, and for Lallana and Milner

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Hamilton said:

This Carteret analysis is interesting but I’m more interested in how it takes into account the quality of players at a manager’s disposal. We clearly don’t have the best squad in the league and yet we’re challenging for Europe.

Not Alonso - so who should replace Klopp at Liverpool?

A leading football analytics company looks at which manager the stats say should be the next Liverpool boss, as Xabi Alonso drops out of the running.

www.bbc.co.uk

However, all this points to what I have believed for a long time and that is that Liverpool and Barca will not appoint a manager that has not won something or done something amazing. Therefore, RDZ’s future appointments still very much depend on his performance metrics here and it will be Tony Bloom who decides if he is still here after the summer.

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TomandJerry said:

Liverpool will have a keen interest since Alonso is staying at Leverkusen

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Bold Seagull said:

GPot took over a side that was very nearly relegated, then hit by Covid disruption. RDZ took over a side in the top 4 having been on a run of incredible results and scoring goals for fun before he arrived.

Agree with you on this season, personally think we’ve still overachieved so far with the availability we’ve had.

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Stat Brother said:

Liverpool now know they have to pay more money to get Alonso.

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Terry Butcher Tribute Act said:

Not disagreeing with you, RDZ inherited a great squad. But in the first 6 games under GPot we'd beaten two sides who'd go on to he relegated, lost at at Fulham, and got an impressive win at Old Trafford and drawn at home to Newcastle. Think the fact we were 4th and just thumped Leicester slightly skewed things and clouded Todd Boehly's vision of how good he actually was

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TomandJerry said:

I'm pretty sure he'll stay:

Alonso said he had informed Leverkusen's directors of his decision to stay at the club last week.

"We have had a lot of speculation regarding my future," he said. "Until now we have had so many games, been pretty busy and focused, and I wanted to reflect during the international break and take a decision.

"The players gave me so many reasons to keep believing in the team - for their commitment, for their desire, for their hunger to have a great season. My job is not over here."

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Weststander said:

Odds?

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TomandJerry said:

I'm pretty sure he'll stay:

Alonso said he had informed Leverkusen's directors of his decision to stay at the club last week.

"We have had a lot of speculation regarding my future," he said. "Until now we have had so many games, been pretty busy and focused, and I wanted to reflect during the international break and take a decision.

"The players gave me so many reasons to keep believing in the team - for their commitment, for their desire, for their hunger to have a great season. My job is not over here."

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Flounce said:

I can read these Latins like a book

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Springal said:

Quite refreshing to see a manager only 18 months into a job decide to stick around and try to achieve something - if you’re talented enough you’ll get future offers right ?

Potter and perhaps RDZ could learn something from that

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Springal said:

Quite refreshing to see a manager only 18 months into a job decide to stick around and try to achieve something - if you’re talented enough you’ll get future offers right ?

Potter and perhaps RDZ could learn something from that

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Terry Butcher Tribute Act said:

I don't think it's the same at all.

GPot took 2 and a half seasons to start getting results - albeit the team in season one was deep in an Ashworth transformation to a young, technical team. But that second season side should have been much better.

RDZ took a better side to Europe playing some blistering football in the process. Had he not needed about 5 games to implement his style we'd probably have got Champions League.

Should this seasons team be doing better having sold and not replaced the crown Jewels in midfield and suffered an unprecedented injury crisis on top, including losing March and Mitoma, the two catalysts for attacking success last season? Well in some games (Luton, Sheffield at home) yes, in others, i am not so sure.

Either way I think RDZ has his faults, but hasn't been backed enough to succeed this season, whatever success is - our current 8th and Europa last 16 wasn't bad. But he'll be missed unless we come up trumps with another brilliant appointment who doesn't need 3 years to hit the ground running, and has the pull to appeal to replacements we badly need in centre midfield, out wide, and for Lallana and Milner

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Springal said:

Quite refreshing to see a manager only 18 months into a job decide to stick around and try to achieve something - if you’re talented enough you’ll get future offers right ?

Potter and perhaps RDZ could learn something from that

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GT49er said:

No, it's not all down to de Zerbi. Potter in two and a half years had to convert a totally defensive, backs-to-the-wall team into an attacking exciting team - and he had to do it using the tools that the recruitment team provided for him along the way ............. Locadia, Jahanbakhsh, Percy Tau and Andone for example. Eventually both the recruitment team and Potter got it right.
RDZ walked straight in to take over an excellent top ten PL team that was already playing some blistering attacking football. He's done a very good job doing that, and driven it forward - but no way is he some sort of magic man who created something out of nothing, or turned a pig's ear into a silk purse. It was no pig's ear that he had to take over to start with!
Both managers have played important parts in getting us to where we are now, not just one of them!

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Bold Seagull said:

GPot took over a side that was very nearly relegated, then hit by Covid disruption. RDZ took over a side in the top 4 having been on a run of incredible results and scoring goals for fun before he arrived.

Agree with you on this season, personally think we’ve still overachieved so far with the availability we’ve had.

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