[Misc] Nottingham murders

WATFORD zero said:

Whatever the subject of the thread, you can always depend on NSC's favourite immigrant arriving to tell us it's all the fault of immigrants

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The Clamp said:

He’s off the streets, hopefully permanently.

The best and only realistic outcome for all concerned.

Whoever is making the decision to slash mental health services also has blood on their hands.

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rippleman said:

I could go on. These aren't the comments of Barnaby's "why family members don't sit on juries" mother but of the trial judge. But I'm sure you are capable of reading the Judge's sentencing remarks for yourself then come back to me and tell me that this wasn't a pre-planned, pre-meditated attack.

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mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:

I'll be honest, I always thought Manslaughter was where you intended to hurt someone but not necessarily their death.

I then watched The Jury on channel where they re-created a trial and saw if two different juries come to the same conclusion. The case they re-enacted was a real one and it was a man who killed his wife in a fit of rage and admitted it, however the question was 'is it murder or manslaughter'

Manslaughter being 'a loss of control'.

I never realised.

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rippleman said:

In the Nottingham case, the jury was never given the opportunity to bring in a guilty verdict for murder. They could have been but the CPS saw fit to deny the jury that option. Why?

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rippleman said:

The defence could have introduced their experts as witnesses for the defence and let the jury make up their own minds. What is the point of jury trials if the prosecution and defence stich-up the charge between them and never give the opportunity to the "twelve good persons and true" to consider the most serious of charges?

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sydney said:

how was this threat supposed to have been identified ..... if a person just wakes up and thinks " f@@k it i'm gonna kill some people today " particularly if the motive is anger , despair , race , politics or religion.

people do kit all over the world just about every day now , how are these "threats " supposed to be identified and how do you treat them , the country is virtually bankrupt , plenty of private money but the public pot is empty according to many sources , genuine question mate , we know this is a very emotional subject , Broken Britain appears to be about right...

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sydney said:

how was this threat supposed to have been identified ..... if a person just wakes up and thinks " f@@k it i'm gonna kill some people today " particularly if the motive is anger , despair , race , politics or religion.

people do kit all over the world just about every day now , how are these "threats " supposed to be identified and how do you treat them , the country is virtually bankrupt , plenty of private money but the public pot is empty according to many sources , genuine question mate , we know this is a very emotional subject , Broken Britain appears to be about right...

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drew said:

Because he didn't just wake up on that day as a paranoid schizophrenic. He already been diagnosed as that and had even admitted prior to the day that he had stopped taking his medication.

You seem to be conflating other murders under different circumstances with the subject matter of this thread.

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