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[Misc] Britain's bitter bread battle

I lke my bread......

  • Cheap and unhealthy.

    Votes: 8 7.8%
  • Artisanal and expensive but obviously healthy.

    Votes: 66 64.7%
  • Other, please specify

    Votes: 28 27.5%

  • Total voters
    102


Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
16,667
Fiveways
Wow! Sounds disgusting! Well 'each to their own' as they say - although I do agree that sometimes the combination of sweet and savoury can be winner. At one time you could buy a type of crispy snack that was honey and mustard flavour. It was absolutely fantastic.
Honey and mustard you can keep to yourself, while also keeping out of The Flour Pot and leaving their burger buns to me on the odd occasion that we have burgers just up the road.
These will have English mustard (but no honey), ketchup, lettuce, red onion, gherkin, cheese and tomato.
We can all have the odd Ravens hot cross bun over the next week or two.
 






JamesAndTheGiantHead

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2011
6,271
Worthing
Bake our own to save money. Prior to that it was Aldi 85p brown bread.
To answer the question how much cheaper is it?
A small loaf, about half the standard size, costs roughly 80p to bake.
Yes, I know. Add to that the £135 bread maker.
You would have to bake a loaf of bread every single day for seven years just to break even on that.

I’m sure your bread’s much nicer though.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,639
The Fatherland
Wow, incredible, where do you even start with that!

The chips look good, are they cooked in beef dripping or similar?
The chips are good, very good. Really crunchy and fluffy inside. As far as I can tell they’re fried in vegetable oil. I guess their excellence is down to the choice, and preparation, of the spud.
 
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Couldn't Be Hyypia

We've come a long long way together
NSC Patron
Nov 12, 2006
15,919
Near Dorchester, Dorset
Lidl do a nice seeded sourdough for £1.79. I got one yesterday for free via their app.
Not wishing to be a food snob, but most supermarket "sourdough" is actually sourfaux (sorry). And Lidl are arch exponents of this.


So nor only is most of it fake, but its also UPF. Don't be fooled.
 






Couldn't Be Hyypia

We've come a long long way together
NSC Patron
Nov 12, 2006
15,919
Near Dorchester, Dorset
I'm other. I'm not a fan of processed bread at all although it's ok for toast.

If I want proper bread, I go to Truffles. Good taste and reasonable price.

I was wandering past HISBE (RIP) one day and seeing they had fresh loaves, thought I'd pop in. Over £3.50! And that was pre-pandemic. I suppose if you are going to scew your suppliers, staff and punters you aren't going to be around for long. And deservedly so.

For fellow Worthingites, Mr B the Baker in South Farm Road also produces very good bread.
I've noticed a few people on here complaining about the price of "real" bread (and not having a go at you @rippleman ), but what do you expect?

We've got so used to mass produced, long shelf life, highly processed, loss leading non-food that we think £4 for a loaf of real bread is expensive.

It's been made by a person, in small batches, with real high quality ingredients, and no additives and no cheap crap to bulk it out nor artificial sweetners/salts to make it more appealing. And it's still ONLY £4.

A good sourdough keeps for two days and toasts well on the third and can be the basis of three meals. Very little compares. And you're definitely not comparing like with like if you compare a real loaf to supermarket "bread" at 80p a loaf. Cos that sh1t sure ain't bread.

We've lost our sense of perspective I think.
 
















Colonel Mustard

Well-known member
Jun 18, 2023
2,043
How hard / easy is this to do? And how good is the end result? At the price of a San Francisco sourdough from
Gail’s I wouldn’t have to make too many to cover the cost of the bread maker. My ability to find the time to do it with two young kids buzzing around me however…
I’ve never made sourdough. That wasn’t a thing when I bought my Panasonic SD253 about 20 years ago. Perhaps newer models can cope with sourdough, though I think the 'starter' takes a few days so I’m not sure.

But making standard bread with a breadmaker is very easy. The beauty of it that you know exactly what goes into it, namely flour, water, and a little salt and sugar (or honey). And a teaspoon of yeast. Nothing else. No chemicals, preservatives, E numbers, nothing. Of course you can add things like olives, dried tomatoes, onion etc if you like that sort of thing. Or raisins for a sweet loaf. That’s your call, but the basics are as stated. I have a pot of seeds — sunflower, pumpkin, chia, sesame etc, all mixed up. I chuck a couple of tablespoonfuls in halfway through to give it extra texture.

is it cheaper than the damp cardboard-style ultra processed supermarket material? Certainly, yes, but that’s not why you make bread at home. Apart from the cost and health benefits, it’s the aesthetics of doing it yourself. When the house is filled with the smell of freshly baked bread. When you take that new, warm, crispy loaf out of the oven or bread machine and cut that first slice. There’s a sort of magic about it, like growing your own vegetables. Tastes so much better, is healthier, and you know exactly what's gone into the making of them.
I highly recommend Ultra Processed People- it's a brilliant read.
Thanks. Just ordered on your recommendation.
 








BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
10,938
WeHo
Bake our own to save money. Prior to that it was Aldi 85p brown bread.
To answer the question how much cheaper is it?
A small loaf, about half the standard size, costs roughly 80p to bake.
Yes, I know. Add to that the £135 bread maker.
Regularly see 2nd hand bread machines in charity shops or boot sales for a fiver.
 


Colonel Mustard

Well-known member
Jun 18, 2023
2,043
Regularly see 2nd hand bread machines in charity shops or boot sales for a fiver.
Apparently they feature high on the list of kitchen devices purchased but not used much. And I hadn't used mine for probably at least 2 or 3 years until lockdown when I dug it out again. Since then, I've wondered why on earth I stopped using it.
 










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