[Politics] King’s Cross - Ramadan Message

cunning fergus said:

Who knows, as this episode we are commenting on demonstrates, we are already well on the wedge journey aren't we?

In less than 100 years, despite increasing secularisation in the U.K. a new religion has arrived, put down roots and continues to be indulged by the powers that be.

With a growing population in the U.K., predominantly young, and ever more constituencies with Muslims holding the balance of power the rest of the wedge is unlikely to be the like of what we have seen before. Perhaps in time we will see a Islamic political party, sharia law enshrined in U.K. law, only halal meat in schools, legal acceptance of polygamy, blasphemy laws, teachers hounded from jobs, maybe even the Islamic republic of Lancashire (or somewhere where a Muslim majority holds the balance of power).

We can either accept growing Islamic influence or reject it to maintain a broadly our secular country with a Christian background. To do the latter we will need to draw a line somewhere to reduce the former, as the French well know.

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cunning fergus said:

Who knows, as this episode we are commenting on demonstrates, we are already well on the wedge journey aren't we?

In less than 100 years, despite increasing secularisation in the U.K. a new religion has arrived, put down roots and continues to be indulged by the powers that be.

With a growing population in the U.K., predominantly young, and ever more constituencies with Muslims holding the balance of power the rest of the wedge is unlikely to be the like of what we have seen before. Perhaps in time we will see a Islamic political party, sharia law enshrined in U.K. law, only halal meat in schools, legal acceptance of polygamy, blasphemy laws, teachers hounded from jobs, maybe even the Islamic republic of Lancashire (or somewhere where a Muslim majority holds the balance of power).

We can either accept growing Islamic influence or reject it to maintain a broadly our secular country with a Christian background. To do the latter we will need to draw a line somewhere to reduce the former, as the French well know.

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cunning fergus said:

Who knows, as this episode we are commenting on demonstrates, we are already well on the wedge journey aren't we?

In less than 100 years, despite increasing secularisation in the U.K. a new religion has arrived, put down roots and continues to be indulged by the powers that be.

With a growing population in the U.K., predominantly young, and ever more constituencies with Muslims holding the balance of power the rest of the wedge is unlikely to be the like of what we have seen before. Perhaps in time we will see a Islamic political party, sharia law enshrined in U.K. law, only halal meat in schools, legal acceptance of polygamy, blasphemy laws, teachers hounded from jobs, maybe even the Islamic republic of Lancashire (or somewhere where a Muslim majority holds the balance of power).

We can either accept growing Islamic influence or reject it to maintain a broadly our secular country with a Christian background. To do the latter we will need to draw a line somewhere to reduce the former, as the French well know.

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cunning fergus said:

Who knows, as this episode we are commenting on demonstrates, we are already well on the wedge journey aren't we?

In less than 100 years, despite increasing secularisation in the U.K. a new religion has arrived, put down roots and continues to be indulged by the powers that be.

With a growing population in the U.K., predominantly young, and ever more constituencies with Muslims holding the balance of power the rest of the wedge is unlikely to be the like of what we have seen before. Perhaps in time we will see a Islamic political party, sharia law enshrined in U.K. law, only halal meat in schools, legal acceptance of polygamy, blasphemy laws, teachers hounded from jobs, maybe even the Islamic republic of Lancashire (or somewhere where a Muslim majority holds the balance of power).

We can either accept growing Islamic influence or reject it to maintain a broadly our secular country with a Christian background. To do the latter we will need to draw a line somewhere to reduce the former, as the French well know.

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cunning fergus said:

Who knows, as this episode we are commenting on demonstrates, we are already well on the wedge journey aren't we?

In less than 100 years, despite increasing secularisation in the U.K. a new religion has arrived, put down roots and continues to be indulged by the powers that be.

With a growing population in the U.K., predominantly young, and ever more constituencies with Muslims holding the balance of power the rest of the wedge is unlikely to be the like of what we have seen before. Perhaps in time we will see a Islamic political party, sharia law enshrined in U.K. law, only halal meat in schools, legal acceptance of polygamy, blasphemy laws, teachers hounded from jobs, maybe even the Islamic republic of Lancashire (or somewhere where a Muslim majority holds the balance of power).

We can either accept growing Islamic influence or reject it to maintain a broadly our secular country with a Christian background. To do the latter we will need to draw a line somewhere to reduce the former, as the French well know.

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cunning fergus said:

Who knows...

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jcdenton08 said:

King's Cross: Network Rail removes Ramadan message after complaints

Network Rail says it is looking into why "general Ramadan celebratory messages" were not used.

www.bbc.co.uk

I really don’t want this to turn into a binfest or drag the racists out, but what were they thinking with this?

I don’t think a train platform timetable board is any place for preaching any religion. They’ve made the right decision now, but who on earth let this happen?

I think organised religion should be kept in the homes and places of worship and organised events - not in one of the busiest train stations in the world.

Who wants to be be called a sinner and told to repent on their morning commute?

Please keep it polite and respectful as I don’t want moderators to see this as me instigating a binfest.

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KZNSeagull said:

I am not religious at all and do not find that offensive in any way.

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cunning fergus said:

Who knows, as this episode we are commenting on demonstrates, we are already well on the wedge journey aren't we?

In less than 100 years, despite increasing secularisation in the U.K. a new religion has arrived, put down roots and continues to be indulged by the powers that be.

With a growing population in the U.K., predominantly young, and ever more constituencies with Muslims holding the balance of power the rest of the wedge is unlikely to be the like of what we have seen before. Perhaps in time we will see a Islamic political party, sharia law enshrined in U.K. law, only halal meat in schools, legal acceptance of polygamy, blasphemy laws, teachers hounded from jobs, maybe even the Islamic republic of Lancashire (or somewhere where a Muslim majority holds the balance of power).

We can either accept growing Islamic influence or reject it to maintain a broadly our secular country with a Christian background. To do the latter we will need to draw a line somewhere to reduce the former, as the French well know.

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What is the ‘great replacement theory’? A scholar of race relations explains

False ideas about the extinction of the white race, spread around the late 19th and early 20th centuries, gave rise to xenophobic and anti-immigration conspiracy theories.

theconversation.com

Zeberdi said:

I’m truly shocked by your comments - what is this if it is not Islamophobic dog whistling and seeking to
promote a hatred of Muslims/non-whites? Britain is a multi cultural, ethno-religious diverse society. It has been for decades.

The idea that we are being taken over by non-whites or more specifically Muslims is frankly, white supremacist and nationalist ideology. It is the sort of thinking that was used as a justification for murdering 6 million Jews stoked up by anti/semitic fervour and discrimination policies. In Britain today, it is an absurd conspiracy theory based as it is on a misunderstanding of the demographic reality of the UK.

According to the last Census in 2021, 82% of British citizens were white. 6.7% of the population identified as Muslim with 42% identifying as Christian and 37% said they had no religious affiliation at all. We have a very long way to go before the ‘Great Replacement’.

What is the ‘great replacement theory’? A scholar of race relations explains

False ideas about the extinction of the white race, spread around the late 19th and early 20th centuries, gave rise to xenophobic and anti-immigration conspiracy theories.

theconversation.com

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jonny.rainbow said:

How exactly is a growing Islamic influence impacting on secular society in Britain?

Give me one example of something you have been forced to do based on the Islamic faith growing in Britain.

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Muslim husbands with more than one wife to get extra benefits as

Husbands living in a "harem" with multiple wives have been cleared to claim state benefits for all their different partners.

www.standard.co.uk

cunning fergus said:

Well, directly we have intrusive security checks now in places we never used to?

Indirectly, I don’t recall voting for a system that supported polygamy?

Muslim husbands with more than one wife to get extra benefits as

Husbands living in a "harem" with multiple wives have been cleared to claim state benefits for all their different partners.

www.standard.co.uk

Must have missed that meeting.

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BadFish said:

If, as you say the acknowledgement of ramadan at a train station is well into the wedge then perhaps the wedge isn't as terrifying as you perceive?

Personally, I am prepared to accept growing Islamic influence as it is many people's chosen faith. Just as I am prepared to accept other faiths, beliefs and identities. Not on the extremes though, not those prejudiced against others based on their beliefs, looks etc. We need to draw a line in the sand against you lot.

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Guinness Boy said:

You obviously didn’t go in the North Stand at the Goldstone then, when you were regularly and properly searched by a Copper rather than patted down by a steward.

And security checks have always been a thing before you fly (including the internal flights I used to take in Taiwan where there was almost zero chance of a Muzzy flying and between Singapore and Malaysia where my wife and I were almost the only non believers).

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clapham_gull said:

I walked past the well known Christian preacher in Liverpool City Centre on Sunday, telling me I was going to hell.

Then some Islamic book sellers with a sign asking whether Jesus was Muslim.

I was utterly offended but only after the busker absolutely killing Careless Whisper.

At which I had a pint and got over it.

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Littlemo said:

It’s a message on a billboard. I don’t know why the people it’s not relevant to can’t just ignore it, in the same way you ignore any other irrelevant info on those boards. Like arrivals if you are looking at departures. Some folk have way too much time on their hands.

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WATFORD zero said:

Watching you dance around trying to avoid a third (or maybe fourth) ban for racism and islamophobia keeps me amused. Even with your contacts at the very highest level of NSC , time will be up eventually. Even Ppf Lasted for a few years until it eventually became too embarrassing

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Talby said:

If I’m looking for a train to Brighton I ignore the ones going to Luton. Same principle, it’s pretty easy.

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cunning fergus said:

Yeah, I remember that, it was done due to violence by football fans, an they took place no where else. No security checks are de reiguer everywhere and at events with no history of violence.

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Britain introduces flights without security checks for first time in almost 50 years

Union warns of a heightened risk of terrorism

www.independent.co.uk