Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

Register Log in

[Politics] King’s Cross - Ramadan Message



jcdenton08

jcdenton08

Enemy of the People
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
10,712
www.bbc.co.uk

King's Cross: Network Rail removes Ramadan message after complaints

Network Rail says it is looking into why "general Ramadan celebratory messages" were not used.
www.bbc.co.uk

I really don’t want this to turn into a binfest or drag the racists out, but what were they thinking with this?

I don’t think a train platform timetable board is any place for preaching any religion. They’ve made the right decision now, but who on earth let this happen?

I think organised religion should be kept in the homes and places of worship and organised events - not in one of the busiest train stations in the world.

Who wants to be be called a sinner and told to repent on their morning commute?

Please keep it polite and respectful as I don’t want moderators to see this as me instigating a binfest.

 






hart's shirt

hart's shirt

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
10,198
Kitbag in Dubai
Having lived in the Middle East for 16 years, wishing someone Ramadan Kareem isn't really that different from Merry Christmas or greeting a Jew with Happy Hanukkah. (Other non-monotheistic religious options and none are available.)

I always viewed it as just a polite greeting for those who you know are fasting during daylight hours and nothing more than respect.

I'd argue that in a pluralistic society like London, it's perfectly acceptable and isn't in any way proselytising.

This, however, is very different. It's theologically holding people to ransom who are only trying to find out the train times.

Even as a Christian, sharing the gospel with anyone interested is one thing, but vomiting it over unwilling people is quite another.

I'm not surprised there's been criticism. Frankly, it's well deserved.
 




Cowfold Seagull

Cowfold Seagull

Fan of the 17 bus
Apr 22, 2009
21,648
Cowfold
PRAISE THE LORD!!! I am a Born Again Christian as many on here will know, and happy to evangelise and spread the Gospel wherever l go.

But with one big caveat, only if people WANT to hear it. Religion is a very personal thing, l realise it isn't for everyone.
 




Cowfold Seagull

Cowfold Seagull

Fan of the 17 bus
Apr 22, 2009
21,648
Cowfold
hart's shirt said:
Having lived in the Middle East for 16 years, wishing someone Ramadan Kareem isn't really that different from Merry Christmas or greeting a Jew with Happy Hanukkah. (Other non-monotheistic religious options and none are available.)

I always viewed it as just a polite greeting for those who you know are fasting during daylight hours and nothing more than respect.

I'd argue that in a pluralistic society like London, it's perfectly acceptable and isn't in any way proselytising.

This, however, is very different. It's theologically holding people to ransom who are only trying to find out the train times.

Even as a Christian, sharing the gospel with anyone interested is one thing, but vomiting it over unwilling people is quite another.

I'm not surprised there's been criticism. Frankly, it's well deserved.
Click to expand...
Indeed.
 


L

luge

Well-known member
Dec 18, 2010
508
My wife is very religious. I am not in the slightest and think it is all bollocks.

I don't find this offensive, but I'm not sure it should be on a public information board - in the same way that we send our kids to non-faith schools.

Keep the basics free of influence - allow everyone to believe and practice what they want and celebrate that we all can.

if it was on a poster or a billboard next to it, crack on.
 


Anger

Anger

Active member
Jul 21, 2017
209
jcdenton08 said:
www.bbc.co.uk

King's Cross: Network Rail removes Ramadan message after complaints

Network Rail says it is looking into why "general Ramadan celebratory messages" were not used.
www.bbc.co.uk

I really don’t want this to turn into a binfest or drag the racists out, but what were they thinking with this?

I don’t think a train platform timetable board is any place for preaching any religion. They’ve made the right decision now, but who on earth let this happen?

I think organised religion should be kept in the homes and places of worship and organised events - not in one of the busiest train stations in the world.

Who wants to be be called a sinner and told to repent on their morning commute?

Please keep it polite and respectful as I don’t want moderators to see this as me instigating a binfest.
Click to expand...

1710958667356.jpeg
 






Eeyore

Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,604
Seems an odd thing to do, and may offend some Christians (who aren't really Christians in the gospel sense of the world, but simply wrap that up in the identity of white Anglo-Saxon)

I'm not sure the text of the message is appropriate for it's display though. If anything, it's a form of advertising.

We are a mostly secular society, so folk are bound to be unhappy. I understand it.
 


Sheebo

Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,297
People have too much time on their hands. It’s a complete non event. Although the morons who complained that they shouldn’t use ‘ladies and gentlemen’ on the anouncent system still win the award for most stupid waste of time and effort to get offended 🤣
 








portlock seagull

portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
17,131
Fair to say wouldn’t have happened 20, 30 years ago so regardless of how you interpret, it’s evidence of further islamisation of Britain and wider Europe. Change. But then we already know this given the rising numbers of people with this faith, whether through immigrants, conversions or born into as 2nd and 3rd generation. Many communities here don’t exactly buy into British values, same in any democracy (you don’t tend to get a choice in Dictatorships hence why nobody migrates there for a ‘better’ life!). So yep, a bit new and strange to those of us not of the faith here, but maybe it won’t be very soon?
 






L

Littlemo

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2022
1,223
It’s a message on a billboard. I don’t know why the people it’s not relevant to can’t just ignore it, in the same way you ignore any other irrelevant info on those boards. Like arrivals if you are looking at departures. Some folk have way too much time on their hands.
 


The Clamp

The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,541
West is BEST
portlock seagull said:
Fair to say wouldn’t have happened 20, 30 years ago so regardless of how you interpret, it’s evidence of further islamisation of Britain and wider Europe. Change. But then we already know this given the rising numbers of people with this faith, whether through immigrants, conversions or born into as 2nd and 3rd generation. Many communities here don’t exactly buy into British values, same in any democracy (you don’t tend to get a choice in Dictatorships hence why nobody migrates there for a ‘better’ life!). So yep, a bit new and strange to those of us not of the faith here, but maybe it won’t be very soon?
Click to expand...
In 1986 we had a Ramadan experience at school. Learned about it and could voluntarily fast .

It’s been quite a thing in Britain for a long while.

Not sure a rail terminal is the appropriate location for such religious messages though.
 
Last edited:


K

Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
57,914
hassocks
jcdenton08 said:
www.bbc.co.uk

King's Cross: Network Rail removes Ramadan message after complaints

Network Rail says it is looking into why "general Ramadan celebratory messages" were not used.
www.bbc.co.uk

I really don’t want this to turn into a binfest or drag the racists out, but what were they thinking with this?

I don’t think a train platform timetable board is any place for preaching any religion. They’ve made the right decision now, but who on earth let this happen?

I think organised religion should be kept in the homes and places of worship and organised events - not in one of the busiest train stations in the world.

Who wants to be be called a sinner and told to repent on their morning commute?

Please keep it polite and respectful as I don’t want moderators to see this as me instigating a binfest.
Click to expand...
I agree.

It's a nonsense.

Would say the same if it was Christian.

Id go as far as saying it's trolling
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
50,205
Faversham
jcdenton08 said:
www.bbc.co.uk

King's Cross: Network Rail removes Ramadan message after complaints

Network Rail says it is looking into why "general Ramadan celebratory messages" were not used.
www.bbc.co.uk

I really don’t want this to turn into a binfest or drag the racists out, but what were they thinking with this?

I don’t think a train platform timetable board is any place for preaching any religion. They’ve made the right decision now, but who on earth let this happen?

I think organised religion should be kept in the homes and places of worship and organised events - not in one of the busiest train stations in the world.

Who wants to be be called a sinner and told to repent on their morning commute?

Please keep it polite and respectful as I don’t want moderators to see this as me instigating a binfest.
Click to expand...
Agree. Keep religion out of public society
 


You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Albion and Premier League latest from Sky Sports


Top
Link Here