Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Yep, imagine wasting the summer sitting on loser Southgate’s bench it would piss me off to.
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[Football] Ben White and our Gareth
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LamieRobertson
Not awoke
So much speculation on this thread which is inevitable considering the vacuum of information (White’s right)….and you’ve nailed it in one sentence
Steven Gerrard described tournament life with England as a “five-star prison”.
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
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Entirely my point! He's quite well rewarded for perhaps putting up with a bit of lad bantz, the occasional telling off from your boss and the monotony of the travelling and living out of suitcase that a footballers life can bring.
I think a lot of people on here are cutting him way too much slack because they simply don't like Southgate and because White once played for us.
But doesn't essentially saying 'it's not me, it's his choice, he didn't even tell me himself' thow him under the bus, too? It has set the media and football fans in general on White - how dare he decline England, what a coward to get Edu to tell Southgate, in this thread people are calling for him to never be picked again by future managers (if that even makes a difference to White).
If he is going to lie/not tell the truth, why not lie as 'he's done really well for Arsenal, I know his qualities, I wanted to go with the players I've got - a mix of reliable tried and tested players, and some getting a first chance' a better way to not throw him under the bus?
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
- Oct 4, 2003
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England players aren’t paid for international games, they donate their appearance fees to charity. Granted being a regular international could raise Ben Whites profile and lead to more lucrative sponsorship deals but I don’t think he’s going to find himself on the breadline anytime soon so I’m sure he can live with any decision he’s made to not play for England at this time.
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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Do you know many introverts? They can appear to be anything but, but inside they typically find being around others and being ‘on’ all the time draining and crave solitude to recharge their batteries. To my vaguely educated eye, BW seems to fit the mould to some extent.
SeagullinExile
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Yeah. It’s like someone getting their mum to call in sick for them.
- May 8, 2018
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Man’s fam got shit innit
You could argue that regularly playing CL football is “being the best at my sport.” as much as world cups are.
And yet....it is possible to create a great building with great mortar and inferior bricks.
This could be said about any team that seems to have done better than one would expect, overcome great offs etc. Off the top o' me 'ead:
Clough's Nottingham Forest
Alf Ramsey's Ipswich
and in the cup:
Martinez' Wigan
And so on.
Hopefully soon RDZ's Brighton
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
With Southgate’s latest comments about Bellingham should the FA sack this clown before the Summer?
Someone not wanting to play for England wouldn’t happen in Germany
Baldseagull
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Good point, well made.And yet....it is possible to create a great building with great mortar and inferior bricks.
This could be said about any team that seems to have done better than one would expect, overcome great offs etc. Off the top o' me 'ead:
Clough's Nottingham Forest
Alf Ramsey's Ipswich
and in the cup:
Martinez' Wigan
And so on.
Hopefully soon RDZ's Brighton
Pointing is one of my strengths.
(Did you notice it took me a couple of day's of pontification before coming up with the riposte? I was almost teetering towards the well known 'master of sarcasm and wit' riposte till the flash of inspiration
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- May 8, 2018
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But there definitely isn’t a problem with Steve Holland!
dejavuatbtn
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Shame that Southgate and Holland couldn’t work it out for themselves. But no surprise I guess.
Wow. One has to admire White's restraint.
Stupid people too stupid to understand how they could possibly have pissed someone off, then insufficiently motivated to make amends.
Son of PC Bins
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- Dec 22, 2011
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So if what’s being reported is true, Gareth Southgate essentially lied a few days ago when saying it had nothing to do with Steve Holland, whilst speculating about what other reasons could be behind Ben’s decision. Classy.