AmexRuislip
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I only thought this as he's basically a newcomer to the England set up.
I do hope he does well, but GS does have his faves.
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[Football] Ben White and our Gareth
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I do hope he does well, but GS does have his faves.
Can someone translate this for me?
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Chat GPT had a go:
It sounds like Ben is facing a lot of pressure and backlash, both from within the team and from external sources, particularly from fans who may have reacted negatively to England's performance in a recent game. It appears that Ben's decision not to play for England at the moment stems from a desire to protect his family from abuse and possibly from feeling disillusioned with the situation.
The mention of Ben's frustration with the defensive set piece training session before playing Wales suggests that there may have been tensions within the team or dissatisfaction with coaching decisions. Despite this, it seems that Ben's primary concern is the well-being of his family and the negative attention they may receive if he continues to play.
Ultimately, Ben's decision highlights the complex dynamics and pressures that athletes face both on and off the field, including the impact of public scrutiny and personal values.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Could be. But that IS the life of a footballer. When Arsenal go away pre-season, you're living from hotel room to hotel room for a month+. During the season a domestic away game will involve at least 1 night cooped up in a hotel. Europe you're probably looking at 3. This isn't an "alien environment" for the likes of White to walk into.
I just think he can't be arsed. There's tanning salons, hair boutiques and tattoo parlours to visit during his downtime to cultivate his portuguese pirate avatar. He doesn't feel motivated to turn up with the rest of the England goons. At least he's honest - I'd MUCH rather that than him turning up with a cob on, because he can't stand the sight of everyone and just wants to be back at home in stroller flip-flop mode.
Arteta is probably delighted.
How have you come to this conclusion?
The Cronx Seagull
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The standard of opposition was far better back then. Sven and Capello would have won that Euro final with the current lot.
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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It's a comfort zone thing. Less an issue being away with Arsenal for brief periods but more of an issue for a tournament, especially if you're not close to many in the squad, have social anxiety tendancies/are an introvert as I suspect BW is. At least having separate accommodation would mitigate that to a degree
BiffyBoy100
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Agree. I’d also love to see RDZ manage the current England team.
I put him charge on football manager and he played the same style winning everything. No Maguire, no Henderson. March and Dunk both in the squad.
One day you and I should get a room.
Along the corridor from one another. Or on a different floors.
Or even in different hotels.
Winner x
Better because whatever one may say about his coaching, he has created a squad ethic.
You can pick the bricks but you can't build anything if you can't mix the mortar.
How have you come to this conclusion?
He hasn't looked anything like an introvert when I've seen him.
Milano
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Slightly off topic but how is Antony Gordon in this England squad? From his reaction I thought he’d wrecked his knee at Chelsea, or did he just not fancy that match?
Guess we will see if it's Southgate when he leaves and if White comes back
If it is Southgate, I find it hard to believe he started the issue, He must have had almost 100 players in his time as England manager and how many have had issues with him?
If it is Southgate, I find it hard to believe he started the issue, He must have had almost 100 players in his time as England manager and how many have had issues with him?
Quite amazing that so much can be made from someone not wanting to play for England.
Obviously I'm not in the know any more than anyone else but I did read an article that White had an issue with one of the England training coaches (implication was bullying) - if that's true, then "just suck it up" seems a bit harsh - nobody should have to work in a hostile environment.
dejavuatbtn
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I imagine most teams are run with a degree of bullying. There’s probably enough of it going on at Arsenal so I don’t blame him for time off away from it.
METALMICKY
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That's all very fluffy but the conclusion I would come to he that's the case is that he chose the wrong career.
The Fits
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Wish I'd made that terrible career choice.
Baldseagull
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If you can mix great mortar but pick inferior bricks, you get a crap building.