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[Albion] Ansu Fati **Signed On Loan 01/09**
- Thread starter El Turi
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No quite….. Although the way he is performing I doubt that offer will be there again.
Jimmy Grimble
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Yes, criticising a player means it’s a boooing
Maybe you could answer the question of what he did yesterday (bar one cross and a shot from distance) that made you think he’s worth all the money we’re spending on him? I’ve not seen anyone give any specifics. I’d love to be shown some evidence so I can reassess but nothings forthcoming.
He was by no means atrocious, he just did very little and, yet again, wouldn’t follow orders and hold his position out wide which got him a bollocking from the coaching team.
For the money we have paid, he should be contributing so much more.
You can say the same for most of our attacking players the last few months. You’re just singling him out because he’s not ‘one of our own’ or something.Yes, criticising a player means it’s a boooing
Maybe you could answer the question of what he did yesterday (bar one cross and a shot from distance) that made you think he’s worth all the money we’re spending on him? I’ve not seen anyone give any specifics. I’d love to be shown some evidence so I can reassess but nothings forthcoming.
If Brighton chose to pay him loads of money that’s Tony’s problem not the fans
I think this is right. If we'd signed him for £4 million from Almeria or someone and were paying him £15K a week I think we'd all see him as an exciting prospect who has had a reasonably good season.
Jimmy Grimble
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I’ve singled him out because he’s on ALOT more money than the rest of them. The expectations should be higher.
The context of the loan fee and his wages is an important factor in this discussion, surely you can see that?
FWIW, Buononatte has definitely shone more than him. Enciso has barely had a chance to but has credit in the bank. Adingra has been similar but has given a bit more in output than him. Ferguson has contributed less, I’d agree.
London Irish
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This is spot on - I don't know the length of his contract at Barca but I imagine a salary drop to come to us would probably be a remote prospect, I'm going to enjoy the time he has left here, I reckon he'll have some really good moments before the end of the season providing he can escape the niggles
Dorset Seagull
Once Dolphin, Now Seagull
Thought there were some decent touches last night but often feel maybe the players around him don’t see what he sees
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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More Buononotte, Enciso and Barco
Less Fati please
Less Fati please
7dialssouthpaw
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- Sep 10, 2022
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yes - I thought he actually looked like he gave a shit yesterday and was trying to lead the team in attack. His instinct for a quick pass or quick shot is his best attribute.
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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It's just very difficult when no one in the team wants to make a quick run(other than JPVH)
The Fits
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- Jun 29, 2020
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Thought he added a bit of energy yesterday.
My concern is that he's not doing what is asked of him. Looks like Gross was berating him in the game and our coaches were right onto him afterwards. Obviously we don't know what was said, but not following instructions is a pretty basic part of football. That's why March is so popular with managers. He always does exactly what he is asked to do. Same with Gross.
Will he come good? I suspect he'll find some confidence.
I don't think it will be here though.
My concern is that he's not doing what is asked of him. Looks like Gross was berating him in the game and our coaches were right onto him afterwards. Obviously we don't know what was said, but not following instructions is a pretty basic part of football. That's why March is so popular with managers. He always does exactly what he is asked to do. Same with Gross.
Will he come good? I suspect he'll find some confidence.
I don't think it will be here though.
sussex_guy2k2
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- Jun 6, 2014
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Did you watch him prior to his two ligament injuries?
There’s a generational talent in there that I suspect was ruined way before he turned up here through no fault of his own. If not physically, then probably mentally.
Barca have recent history of overplaying youngsters and it leading to serious long term injuries.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Probably because he had a shot with out a build up of fifty passes before hand
- Nov 11, 2009
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I'm not sure the expectations should be higher because he's on more money.
He's still a 21yo at beginning of career in the big boys leagues.
His wages are a reflection of how good his agent is and how much Barcelona have ridiculously over valued their player.
Which is one of main reasons they're a financial basket case desperate for the European super league.
You can pay someone 15k or 150k it doesn't change their ability.
sussex_guy2k2
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He’s also on more money because he signed a contract prior to 2 knee injuries that would’ve ended careers 20 years ago.
I don’t think he’s been great for us, and I was surprised that we thought he was worth it on those wages at the time, but that doesn’t stop the fact that he was doing things most teenagers don’t do prior to the injuries.
Fati not having a good season could make it possible for us to buy him, which I would 100% support even if he would be hopeless for the last 10 games. Massive talent and even if he never reach the "next Messi" level he will turn out a real good player.
deslynhamsmoustache1
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Totally this. But it should make them hungrier and have a huge desire.
Jimmy Grimble
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Expectations related to how much money a player is costing a club is paramount to our business model though.
Our only ‘big’ earners are players who contribute a massive amount to the club and can be relied upon to consistently deliver.
If we’re not getting value for money out of someone, it is a massive hindrance for a tightly run budget. We cannot afford expensive earners to offer so little.
This is partly on the recruitment team but Fati also has to carry some of the burden. If Dunk, Mitoma or Gross were offering limited returns they’d be getting questioned as well.
Javeaseagull
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- Feb 22, 2014
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I always thought it was a PR exercise? He is a very famous young man and it gets our brand “out there.” Or something like that.