Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
"Grunt Schnapps Attacks Putin".

Putin replies

"What is a Grunt Schnapps?"
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Michael Gove wants to use parliamentary privilege to name groups under his new definition of extremism, despite government lawyers warning him about the legal implications of doing so.
There will be no appeal if you are labelled an extremist group.

This thread is very thought provoking.

 








nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,723
Gods country fortnightly
Michael Gove wants to use parliamentary privilege to name groups under his new definition of extremism, despite government lawyers warning him about the legal implications of doing so.
There will be no appeal if you are labelled an extremist group.

This thread is very thought provoking.


The Tories are an extremist group, it could come back to haunt them....
 


rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,636
Michael Gove wants to use parliamentary privilege to name groups under his new definition of extremism, despite government lawyers warning him about the legal implications of doing so.
There will be no appeal if you are labelled an extremist group.

This thread is very thought provoking.


"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear"

George Orwell
 


abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,123
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear"

George Orwell
Absolutely but the sub question is HOW one exercises that right. Has 21st century society lost the ability to debate without being overly 'offended' or by being overly 'aggressive' (whether by use of hateful words or hateful actions)?
 




jcdenton08

Enemy of the People
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
11,145
Absolutely but the sub question is HOW one exercises that right. Has 21st century society lost the ability to debate without being overly 'offended' or by being overly 'aggressive' (whether by use of hateful words or hateful actions)?
This in spades, from all sides of the political spectrum when it comes to social media “discussion”.

But the big problem right now though is it’s the bloody government and their paymasters rhetoric being directly racist rather than snide insinuation. The Tories are getting desperate. Their “plausible deniability” has evaporated.

At least Starmer is slowly getting the scumbags, racists and ridiculed out (Ali, Abbott, Corbyn losing the whip). In the current day Tory party it gets you in the cabinet.

The government is having an absolute mare with this latest blunder. No amount of money is worth what they’ve having to try and dance around.
 


Peteinblack

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jun 3, 2004
3,682
Bath, Somerset.
I’m confused:

Tories - “We are opposed to Cancel Culture and insist that free-speech is sacrosanct. Instead of being easily offended snowflakes, people need to become more tolerant and resilient.”

Tories - “We consider many views that we disagree with, and those who hold such views, to be extremist or undemocratic, and we will therefore ban them.” 😳
 
Last edited:


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
51,484
Faversham
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear"

George Orwell
I does depend what that is though.

For example, Hester had no right to say what he said.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
51,484
Faversham
This in spades, from all sides of the political spectrum when it comes to social media “discussion”.

But the big problem right now though is it’s the bloody government and their paymasters rhetoric being directly racist rather than snide insinuation. The Tories are getting desperate. Their “plausible deniability” has evaporated.

At least Starmer is slowly getting the scumbags, racists and ridiculed out (Ali, Abbott, Corbyn losing the whip). In the current day Tory party it gets you in the cabinet.

The government is having an absolute mare with this latest blunder. No amount of money is worth what they’ve having to try and dance around.
But mostly from one side. Let's face it :shrug:
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
51,484
Faversham
Absolutely but the sub question is HOW one exercises that right. Has 21st century society lost the ability to debate without being overly 'offended' or by being overly 'aggressive' (whether by use of hateful words or hateful actions)?
Historically the political debate has been much more overly aggressive. Yet even now I see more overly aggressive 'discussion' than overly 'offended' responses. I don't recognise the culture war between broflakes and snowflakes.

Consider this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/15/britains-most-racist-election-smethwick-50-years-on


1710437527287.png
 










nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,723
Gods country fortnightly
The rats really are fleeing the sinking ship, how many bottlejobs are we up to?
 






A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
18,437
Deepest, darkest Sussex
 


Hugo Rune

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
22,013
Brighton
Michael Gove wants to use parliamentary privilege to name groups under his new definition of extremism, despite government lawyers warning him about the legal implications of doing so.
There will be no appeal if you are labelled an extremist group.

This thread is very thought provoking.


I wonder if people who call for MP’s to be shot will be included in this definition of extremism?

I suspect if you’ve profiteered from so many NHS IT contracts that you can afford to donate £10m to the Tory party, you might not make the list?
 


Albion and Premier League latest from Sky Sports


Top
Link Here