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Brown is the new black...You do realise that black shirts are sooo last year, dahling!
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[Politics] Lee Anderson goes full Oswald Mosely
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It’s not just a strong anti immigration or pro death penalty. It’s the finding of humour in it.
“100% don’t go on to reoffend”
And “let them get back on the dinghy’s”
The total lack of empathy. Total disregard for human life.
I am not saying we are heading for a Holocaust or a fourth Reich. But I am pointing out that these are the traits that lead to totalitarianism.
People are lead to believe that fascism can only mean genocide and antisemitism, war and Jack-boots.
But there are the more insidious techniques;
Demonising of specific groups of people, cruel immigration policy, fixation on crime and punishment.
Just a few of the tropes of fascism that are visible in the Tory party and certainly the Reform party.
We are not heading for a holocaust or genocide in this country but the taking over of a free society by a totalitarian government? The building blocks are in place.
nicko31
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The Tories were centre right under Cameron, then they got consumed by nationalist fringe and kicked out a lot of their grandees and replaced them with populists. They're not far right but they are now hard right there's no escaping reality.
As for free speech you kidding? This is the party that prorogued our parliament, attacks our judiciary, tries to put their own cronies in charge of media regulation, attacks and infiltrates our institutions, shuts down peaceful protest, tries to weaponise climate change and suppresses democracy at the ballot box.
As for the free market, try telling that to our farmers being driven out of business with terrible trade deals....
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That's just whataboutery and not my point. The Tories are stopping peaceful protest. The Tories control the media. And every rightwinger in the country shits themselves whenever Gary Lineker posts on 'X'.
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It is good for politics, the nation and society to have strong opposition. I personally hope the Tories complete a root and branch relaunch after they are crushed later this year. We NEED strong adversarial opposition in our political system.
Oswald Moseley was anti semetic and wanted the integration of Europe into a single political entity.
Perhaps some posters on this thread can explain in more detail why they feel Lee Anderson has gone full Oswald Mosely, when Anderson voted for Brexit and is highly critical of the pro Palestinan demonstrations in favour of wiping out the Jews.
Perhaps some posters on this thread can explain in more detail why they feel Lee Anderson has gone full Oswald Mosely, when Anderson voted for Brexit and is highly critical of the pro Palestinan demonstrations in favour of wiping out the Jews.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Yes, but it doesn't necessarily have to be the tories
Randy McNob
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- Jun 13, 2020
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Whatever you think of Anderson, this whole charade is all about him, never about the local community or improving the lives of his constituents, instead arguing the people of Ashfields main concern is what's happening in London. Self serving and out of touch
'Disgusting': Lee Anderson slammed as he tells migrants to 'f*** off back to France'
LEE Anderson has attracted fierce criticism for telling asylum seekers to “f*** off back to France”.
www.thenational.scot
Some of whom fought for our country.
Haha heathgate. I have been a Conservative voter all my life and have never bought a copy of the Guardian. I have, however, read a few articles online because there is no pay wall and I do like to hear the opinions of those whose politics I do not share. I often find the opinions expressed too smug and righteous to digest.
I will not be voting for the Conservatives at the next election because they have been in power for too long and quite frankly have become an absolute shambles. I cannot bring myself to vote Labour, so it will probably be a local independent if there is a sensible one standing in my constituency. Failing that, it will probably be The Monster Raving Loony Party, I’ve always had a soft spot for Screaming Lord Sutch
. As for Corbyn, nothing more needs to be said than he and his cohort were never fit for office.I don’t go along with some of the opinions expressed on here that the Conservative Party is bordering on Fascism, but I also find myself well out of kilter with the likes of Braverman and her followers, also Badenoch concerns me. There are others as well. The party is presently akin to a ship without a moral compass.
I consider myself centre right. How about you?
I am centre right with some lefty leanings. And I find Anderson a bit of a fascist.
dejavuatbtn
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Ever heard the one about the emperor’s suit of clothes?
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Especially with a white tie.You do realise that black shirts are sooo last year, dahling!
chickens
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I think the Anderson apologists scare me more than Anderson himself. It’s the normalisation of hate rhetoric that is how fascism creeps in, and far too many people are quite complacent about the sort of language he’s using and his dog whistle tactics to shore up his support.
I accept that there are many individuals who aren’t alarmed, and feel it’s all part of the cut and thrust of politics, but the acid test of whether something’s really acceptable is to pretend for a minute that you or yours are part of whichever group is being demonised at that precise moment, and decide whether you’d be comfortable being described in those terms, or having your loved ones described in those terms.
In my opinion more people should be alarmed, we fought against this in 1939, don’t bloody well invite it to form a government in 2024.
I accept that there are many individuals who aren’t alarmed, and feel it’s all part of the cut and thrust of politics, but the acid test of whether something’s really acceptable is to pretend for a minute that you or yours are part of whichever group is being demonised at that precise moment, and decide whether you’d be comfortable being described in those terms, or having your loved ones described in those terms.
In my opinion more people should be alarmed, we fought against this in 1939, don’t bloody well invite it to form a government in 2024.
“It couldn’t happen here”
Just had a look at their policy website. Oh dear.
Good to see they are taking it all seriously.
Good to see they are taking it all seriously.
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Precisely. I am quite happy to refer to that scummy 'party' as fascist. 'Reform', my arse. 'Making Britain Great Again'. FFS. Where will the wall go up? Goodwin Sands? Paid for by the French, no doubt.
Burn them. BURN them!
Burn them.
Just don't vote for them.
In all seriousness, there’s just no substance to it.
That doesn’t make it fascist in itself.
It’s more like a wish list mixed with MAGA style proclamations about Brexit and ireland.
A mess, in other words.
www.reformparty.uk
That doesn’t make it fascist in itself.
It’s more like a wish list mixed with MAGA style proclamations about Brexit and ireland.
A mess, in other words.
Policies Reform UK
www.reformparty.uk
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Unbelievable.
Perhaps calling them fascists assumes more organizational acumen and more (than a goldfish) memory skills than they in fact possess.
A marriage of public inconvenience. Soon to be quickly flushed down the political shitter, one hopes.
Cordwainer
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In an attempt to cheer myself up I just looked at the same.In all seriousness, there’s just no substance to it.
That doesn’t make it fascist in itself.
It’s more like a wish list mixed with MAGA style proclamations about Brexit and ireland.
A mess, in other words.
Policies Reform UK
The surname of Hove n Portslades PPC
Hove and Portslade Constituency - Martin Hess PPC Reform UK
Martin Hess is the PPC (Prospective Parliamentary Candidate) for the Hove and Portslade constituency and will be your Reform UK representative at the next General Election.
www.reformparty.uk
Mega lol.