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Coozi

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Talby said:
Ok, so your generalisation is ok then?
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No, it's not. I'm refuting a racist generalisation: being British doesn't make you immune to violent behaviours when attending a football game. And the overwhelming evidence shows that that racist generalisation made on this thread was total horseshit.
I can give you lessons on logic on Skype separately, but I think we can now move on, Talby.

So, did you like the Architecture?
 




dazzer6666

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Coozi said:
No, it's not. I'm refuting a racist generalisation: being British doesn't make you immune to violent behaviours when attending a football game. And the overwhelming evidence shows that that racist generalisation made on this thread was total horseshit.
I can give you lessons on logic on Skype separately, but I think we can now move on, Talby.

So, did you like the Architecture?
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@Bozza can we have Swansman back ?
 


Talby

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Coozi said:
No, it's not. I'm refuting a racist generalisation: being British doesn't make you immune to violent behaviours when attending a football game. And the overwhelming evidence shows that that racist generalisation made on this thread was total horseshit.
I can give you lessons on logic on Skype separately, but I think we can now move on, Talby.

So, did you like the Architecture?
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Your need to be in control is rather sweet.

The architecture was amazing. A reflection of power and fragile masculinity.
 


BNthree

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Coozi said:
No, it's not. I'm refuting a racist generalisation: being British doesn't make you immune to violent behaviours when attending a football game. And the overwhelming evidence shows that that racist generalisation made on this thread was total horseshit.
I can give you lessons on logic on Skype separately, but I think we can now move on, Talby.

So, did you like the Architecture?
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f***ing hell you're getting boring now.
 


BN9 BHA

BN9 BHA

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Coozi said:
Cotton socks, appreciate the effort, but most of this was unnecessary.
As for your characterisation of English football violence as a thing of "many decades ago", I understand English fans no longer cause the death of 39 people at games like during the 80, and so if the level of violence is less tragic today, I wouldn't consider it a thing of the past or something the "UK has addressed". That's not what happens when we go to England for away games (and your media don't report anything), and that's not what happens when English fans come to Rome or continental Europe (and your media don't report with same zeal what happens).

The root of the debate was criticising a racist claim made by portlock. A racist claim that also puts the "Brits", not Brighton fans speifically, the Brits, on a pedestal, claiming some kind of moral and behavioural supremacy over an other ethnic group. We Brits: nice and clean, other ethnic group: hot headed and violent. Bullshit, not backed by facts. And racist.

That was the root issue. The rest is a tangent by those who won't acknowledge that racist claim is ridiculous and not backed by facts: English supporters ("the Brits" as an ethnic group, as per portlock's post) are in no position to school anyone on "civilised" behaviours. Acknowledged it without too many excuses, like many of your mates here already did.
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Coozi

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Ok, no more twisting of my words? good. my goal is complete, see you in a few days, "not-hot-headed Brits!".
BNthree said:
f***ing hell you're getting boring now.
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It is rather boring when multiple people twist your words without reading, and the next one starts the process all over, I give you that.

So you guys liked the Architecture. What about food?
 






dwayne

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Coozi said:
Ok, no more twisting of my words? good. my goal is complete, see you in a few days, "not-hot-headed Brits!".

It is rather boring when multiple people twist your words without reading, and the next one starts the process all over, I give you that.

So you guys liked the Architecture. What about food?
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Foods great but in true Italian style does get boring after a while , I dunno how you lot eat pasta every other day.

Hopefully Italians can learn to really appreciate other countries cuisine one day, get a few good Indian restaurants in town maybe.
 






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Coozi

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dwayne said:
Foods great but in true Italian style does get boring after a while , I dunno how you lot eat pasta every other day.

Hopefully Italians can learn to really appreciate other countries cuisine one day, get a few good Indian restaurants in town maybe.
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Italian food is not just pasta and pizza, that's a false myth. Hopefully non-Italians can go beyond the pizza-pasta stereotype one day.
 


dwayne

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Hearing today from someone still in Rome that on Wednesday night at scholars pub there was a massive fight between Brighton fans (Brighton Vs Brighton) .... 30 people involved. Lots battered and bruised. Bar staff pretty shocked and said luckily plastic cups there because if it was glass someone would have got seriously hurt.
 


dwayne

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Coozi said:
Italian food is not just pasta and pizza, that's a false myth. Hopefully non-Italians can go beyond the pizza-pasta stereotype one day.
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Yes it's also offal , veal (a hundred variations in Rome), beef , sausage , peasant food ,etc

But you guys need to do other cuisines better and look outside your own country sometimes.
 




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Coozi

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dwayne said:
Yes it's also offal , veal (a hundred variations in Rome), beef , sausage , peasant food ,etc

But you guys need to do other cuisines better and look outside your own country sometimes.
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In your list you forgot fish, vegetables, etc. the list goes on, for non-pasta/pizza dishes. It's just that people abroad are crazy about pazza-pista, so you are all convinced Italian cuisine is just that.

It's easy to "look outside" when your country's food culture is non-existent and you have to import it from abroad through colonisation, but in Italy there is no rush to do so, given the virtually infinite variety of ingredients and regional sub-cultures, we ourselves discover as we travel out of town on weekends. Plus, tourists stay in the city centre, mostly, and there, businesses will give them what they came for.
Go beyond the city centre in Rome, and in addition to more litter and neglected infrastructure, you'll find excellent restaurants specialised in other cuisines (Japanese, Chinese, Ethiopian, Middle-Eastern, Mexican, etc, etc, etc.).
Some are in the city centre, but obviously they're not everywhere because of... you people visiting!
 


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That's obviously correct - the food tradition in Italy is insane, we only see a part of it, and as a tourist it's hard to find the excellent, innovative stuff due to the vast amount of choice.

There is an argument that the sheer number of classic dishes stifles originality - my French wife thinks the same re food in France - but the food culture, and general understanding of ingredients and seasonality - is miles ahead of the average UK person, there's no question.
 


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Bozza said:
Here's one suggestion...

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The funny thing is, if we actually did this, the Roma fans would probably have a laugh, knowing what it’s referring to, but we would end up being caned by the British press for being scum
 


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dwayne said:
Hearing today from someone still in Rome that on Wednesday night at scholars pub there was a massive fight between Brighton fans (Brighton Vs Brighton) .... 30 people involved. Lots battered and bruised. Bar staff pretty shocked and said luckily plastic cups there because if it was glass someone would have got seriously hurt.
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Quelle surprise. Even on a normal away day it’s rare not to see a bit of friendly fire, probably arguing about keeper rotation 😬
 




dwayne

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Coozi said:
In your list you forgot fish, vegetables, etc. the list goes on, for non-pasta/pizza dishes. It's just that people abroad are crazy about pazza-pista, so you are all convinced Italian cuisine is just that.

It's easy to "look outside" when your country's food culture is non-existent and you have to import it from abroad through colonisation, but in Italy there is no rush to do so, given the virtually infinite variety of ingredients and regional sub-cultures, we ourselves discover as we travel out of town on weekends. Plus, tourists stay in the city centre, mostly, and there, businesses will give them what they came for.
Go beyond the city centre in Rome, and in addition to more litter and neglected infrastructure, you'll find excellent restaurants specialised in other cuisines (Japanese, Chinese, Ethiopian, Middle-Eastern, Mexican, etc, etc, etc.).
Some are in the city centre, but obviously they're not everywhere because of... you people visiting!
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I've been to Italy nearly a 100x and I used to work for an Italian company. I agree with what you say about Italian food within the country. but the standard of other countries cuisine is below average and my mind won't be changed on that

I live in London and I could go out now and get world class Japanese , greek , Indian , Chinese , Thai , Malaysian , french etc in a heartbeat......not possible in Italy.
 


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dwayne said:
I've been to Italy nearly a 100x and I used to work for an Italian company. I agree with what you say about Italian food within the country. but the standard of other countries cuisine is below average and my mind won't be changed on that

I live in London and I could go out now and get world class Japanese , greek , Indian , Chinese , Thai , Malaysian , french etc in a heartbeat......not possible in Italy.
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In essence though that’s praise for London’s multiculturalism. You could cane most places in the world for not living up to those standards
 


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