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[Albion] Chelsea line up de Zerbi and Amorim to replace Pochettino…







US Seagull

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I’m just bored of this now. If it’s not Chelsea it’s Liverpool, if it’s not Liverpool it’s Man United or Barcelona or Bayern.

RDZ is great for us but I don’t believe he is quite as good as he’s being made out to be.

Dont really want this going on all summer and into next season. If he won’t sign a new contract maybe we all just shake hands in the summer and say thanks for the memories.
Yeah, there was a time, end of last season, beginning of this season, when I would have been pretty disappointed with the prospect of RDZ leaving. Recent form has me feeling increasingly ambivalent about. He's a good manager, he's done some wonderful things for us, but he does have some glaring weaknesses that are being exposed at the moment and he doesn't quite seem to have come around to the idea that they need fixing.
 


Swegulls

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Aug 29, 2023
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He signed a 4 year deal when he joined. So it runs until summer 2026.
Ah, thank you! What's the hurry then, to negotiate a new contract already I mean? Is it always like that, he's hardly been here for a whole season? I guess I'm old school, if you sign a contract for 4 years you just shut the f*ck up and get on with the work.
 


Milano

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Yeah, there was a time, end of last season, beginning of this season, when I would have been pretty disappointed with the prospect of RDZ leaving. Recent form has me feeling increasingly ambivalent about. He's a good manager, he's done some wonderful things for us, but he does have some glaring weaknesses that are being exposed at the moment and he doesn't quite seem to have come around to the idea that they need fixing.
He’s hamstrung with injuries. Players have been rushed back due to new injuries. Desperate luck. Add in that we’ve been drawn away in every single cup game this season. Also we don’t know his thinking with the keepers because he’s not gone public with it. My GUESS is that at some point in the near future he will pick BV as his no 1. I think tactic of rotation this season has been to protect Bart when needed without the tag that he’s been ‘dropped’.
 


Beanstalk

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Ah, thank you! What's the hurry then, to negotiate a new contract already I mean? Is it always like that, he's hardly been here for a whole season? I guess I'm old school, if you sign a contract for 4 years you just shut the f*ck up and get on with the work.
Which is kind of exactly what he's doing. When posed with leading questions he bats away speculation with reminders that he is contracted as the Brighton manager and that's his focus.

I'm not saying he is going to turn down offers to stay if they come in, but currently even the media rumours are implying he's not actively forcing anything (lots of Barcelona media implying that he isn't putting pressure on the club to lower a release clause to go to Barca).
 




Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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Ah, thank you! What's the hurry then, to negotiate a new contract already I mean? Is it always like that, he's hardly been here for a whole season? I guess I'm old school, if you sign a contract for 4 years you just shut the f*ck up and get on with the work.

We want to get him on a longer contract so we can up the release fee.

There is nothing for RDZ to shut the f*** up about. This is press speculation and the only time he’s commented is when someone has asked him a question in the press conferences.
 


Jim in the West

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He’s hamstrung with injuries. Players have been rushed back due to new injuries. Desperate luck. Add in that we’ve been drawn away in every single cup game this season. Also we don’t know his thinking with the keepers because he’s not gone public with it. My GUESS is that at some point in the near future he will pick BV as his no 1. I think tactic of rotation this season has been to protect Bart when needed without the tag that he’s been ‘dropped’.
Good points. I'm not sure what's going on in the background, but we seem to be being rather harsh on RDZ. Pretty much all teams (and therefore managers) go through tough spells. Only a few seasons ago (20/21) Liverpool had horrendous injury problems, and finished 17 points behind Man City. They only got into Europe thanks to an amazing final 10 games (they won 8 of them). Van Dijk, Matip and Gomez were out most of the season, and Alexander Arnold was all over the place at full back. At the time I remember thinking that Klopp seemed incredibly naive as he hardly seemed to change their playing style. Before that great run at the end of the season they'd conceded more goals than anyone else in the top half of the table. (In fact, just checking, they'd conceded more goals than us, and we were 17th at the time!).
Hopefully RDZ can get us through this rather dodgy period, and stick with us for a few years to come. I'm not especially confident, but if he wants to be a top manager I think he needs to demonstrate the resilience that guys like Klopp have.
 


Stat Brother

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Sheebo

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Indeed. That's a very selective and abridged quote.
It’s what they do on social media -
Make things sound like they’re not and wait on morons to take them as gospel at a glance…
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Good points. I'm not sure what's going on in the background, but we seem to be being rather harsh on RDZ. Pretty much all teams (and therefore managers) go through tough spells. Only a few seasons ago (20/21) Liverpool had horrendous injury problems, and finished 17 points behind Man City. They only got into Europe thanks to an amazing final 10 games (they won 8 of them). Van Dijk, Matip and Gomez were out most of the season, and Alexander Arnold was all over the place at full back. At the time I remember thinking that Klopp seemed incredibly naive as he hardly seemed to change their playing style. Before that great run at the end of the season they'd conceded more goals than anyone else in the top half of the table. (In fact, just checking, they'd conceded more goals than us, and we were 17th at the time!).
Hopefully RDZ can get us through this rather dodgy period, and stick with us for a few years to come. I'm not especially confident, but if he wants to be a top manager I think he needs to demonstrate the resilience that guys like Klopp have.
This in spades, we need to show a bit of patience.
 


Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
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Not surprised he’s ‘in love with Italy,’ it’s barely stopped raining here since he took the BHA job. I do occasionally wonder about the asides he must have with his team about our (increasingly shite) weather. Then again, Ukraine can’t have been spectacular weather.
 




ozzygull

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He said in a resent interview, I don’t remember which one, that he does love his country but left because he didn’t like how football was run in that country. Don’t know if that has changed.
 


Weststander

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He’s hamstrung with injuries. Players have been rushed back due to new injuries. Desperate luck. Add in that we’ve been drawn away in every single cup game this season. Also we don’t know his thinking with the keepers because he’s not gone public with it. My GUESS is that at some point in the near future he will pick BV as his no 1. I think tactic of rotation this season has been to protect Bart when needed without the tag that he’s been ‘dropped’.

They’ve been his Achilles Heel.
 


Hiheidi

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He said in a resent interview, I don’t remember which one, that he does love his country but left because he didn’t like how football was run in that country. Don’t know if that has changed.

I think it was in Rome, to the Italian reporters in the pre- match press conference. He seems to hate their reporters more than ours.
 


Papa Lazarou

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Jul 7, 2003
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I think it was in Rome, to the Italian reporters in the pre- match press conference. He seems to hate their reporters more than ours.
He was VERY angry with them wasn't he?
 






warmleyseagull

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Apr 17, 2011
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Good points. I'm not sure what's going on in the background, but we seem to be being rather harsh on RDZ. Pretty much all teams (and therefore managers) go through tough spells. Only a few seasons ago (20/21) Liverpool had horrendous injury problems, and finished 17 points behind Man City. They only got into Europe thanks to an amazing final 10 games (they won 8 of them). Van Dijk, Matip and Gomez were out most of the season, and Alexander Arnold was all over the place at full back. At the time I remember thinking that Klopp seemed incredibly naive as he hardly seemed to change their playing style. Before that great run at the end of the season they'd conceded more goals than anyone else in the top half of the table. (In fact, just checking, they'd conceded more goals than us, and we were 17th at the time!).
Hopefully RDZ can get us through this rather dodgy period, and stick with us for a few years to come. I'm not especially confident, but if he wants to be a top manager I think he needs to demonstrate the resilience that guys like Klopp have.
Good comment. They lost 6 home games in a row, (including the Alzate moment) after not losing at home for ages. Difference is that no other club thought it would be a good idea to pinch Klopp because he had done a great job beforehand. Others don't raid Liverpool and the like, Liverpool and the like raid the others. "BHA has a good idea/manager/player so we had better have a piece of it because we are more powerful" is fine. Substitute Liverpool for BHA and it doesn't work.

Klopp had no need of resilience because resilience was built into his position with one of the top clubs in the world. This is the glass ceiling that we among others have to smash.
 


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