kojak
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[Other Sport] F1 2024
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The Colonel
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I love F1 but I'm not sure I can watch a whole season of this.
Well that’s this season over
I keep thinking back to something Ted Kravitz said during one of the Notebooks he did from testing, essentially that a lot of the recent growth in F1 has been driven by a massive fanbase explosion in the USA. But sports fans in the USA are not really used to one team dominating consistently (hence why they have a draft system to try and level the playing field), so if Red Bull do end up running away with it again (and after 1/24 races, that looks like it's definitely one of the likely outcomes if not the most likely) will that start to hurt F1 with that fanbase? Probably not at first, but what if it happens again in 2025 (and who would bet against that)?
I keep thinking back to something Ted Kravitz said during one of the Notebooks he did from testing, essentially that a lot of the recent growth in F1 has been driven by a massive fanbase explosion in the USA. But sports fans in the USA are not really used to one team dominating consistently (hence why they have a draft system to try and level the playing field), so if Red Bull do end up running away with it again (and after 1/24 races, that looks like it's definitely one of the likely outcomes if not the most likely) will that start to hurt F1 with that fanbase? Probably not at first, but what if it happens again in 2025 (and who would bet against that)?
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2026 for that.
Not so sure myself. Bahrain isn't a typical circuit, I'm going to cling to the hope that it just happened to play to the RBR car strengths and that other circuits this year will swing things back towards other teams.
Few positives to come out of the race weekend:
1. Ferrari appears to have better / more consistent race pace than last year. Sainz was able to push through the whole race and didn't fade. Even Leclerc, once he'd sorted out whatever the braking problem was, was able to push to the end. Any difficult weekends for RBR and they should be there with a race-winning pace.
2. Qually-wise, it was tight through the whole field. Verstappen was gifted pole - Leclerc set a time in Q2 that would have been pole.
3. The Mercedes and McLaren should get better as the season progresses. Both teams have shown they can develop through a season, and this season they are both starting from a much better base than previous seasons.
This is where I think FOM have been exceedingly short sighted in rejecting Andretti. They really could have done with having a big name from US motorsports for the US fans to follow (as they get ready over the next 2 years) and then cheer from 2026 onwards. Haas just isn't that team; he's not there to win, he's there to advertise his business which means "good enough is good enough". Andretti would be there to compete and target wins.
From a fan numbers point of view, it's already looking like the shine is coming off - the initial ratings numbers for Netflix's "Drive to Survive" are way down compared to last year.
AstroSloth
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Tbf Verstappen also had a time in Q2 which was 2 tenths up on Leclerc in the first sector alone before he abandoned the run.
Red Bull are also rumoured to have a big package coming for Imola.
Nobby Cybergoat
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Audax can I say on behalf of many here, Thanks for watching F1, (and giving us a summary of what is going on) so that we don't have to
Nobby Cybergoat
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Is this one of the things Horner was texting a junior female team member with details of?
kojak
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Otmar must be crying with laughter into his Pastis
Hope Horny Horner gets the heave-ho.
JJ McClure
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FIA President Ben Sulayem now in possible trouble for influencing the stewards - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68465516 - so far this season the off track stuff is more interesting than the racing.
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Formula 1 ... if the racing is boring, just wait a little and something else will emerge that captures the interest. Or, as has done today, multiple "somethings".
Something 1: I already posted about Alpine's staff merry-go-round merrily going around.
Something 2: Rumours emerge that Ford are looking into whether they can escape their deal with Red Bull, as they don't want to be involved in the chaos:
Something 3: In Italy, it is now reported that Horner secretly tried to buy out Red Bull with backing from UK financiers last year:
Something 4: Mohammed Ben Sulayem, FIA President, is being investigated over potentially interfering with the Saudi race result last year:
Something 1: I already posted about Alpine's staff merry-go-round merrily going around.
Something 2: Rumours emerge that Ford are looking into whether they can escape their deal with Red Bull, as they don't want to be involved in the chaos:
Something 3: In Italy, it is now reported that Horner secretly tried to buy out Red Bull with backing from UK financiers last year:
Something 4: Mohammed Ben Sulayem, FIA President, is being investigated over potentially interfering with the Saudi race result last year:
Mohammed Ben Sulayem: FIA president under investigation for alleged attempt to interfere over F1 race
The president of motorsport's governing body is under investigation for an alleged attempt to interfere over a Formula 1 race result.
www.bbc.co.uk
JackB247
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Wonder what other race MBS might have fixed? You know the one where the people involved left the FIA and signed NDAs and the wrong champion was crowned.
Worried Man Blues
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Have Horners tweets or whatups been made public yet?
Cordwainer
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You know things have gone seriously awry in your team when someone with the history and character of Jos Verstappen start calling out others integrity!
Who does he think he is, Michael Massey?
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That happened before MBS became president. 2021 was Jean Todt era.
Cordwainer
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Good points well made.
www.theguardian.com
To everyone’s surprise, F1’s schlocky personal soap opera has become reality | Jonathan Liew
Christian Horner lived by the scripted entertainment product, and his tenure may die by the scripted entertainment product
www.theguardian.com
AstroSloth
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Rumours abound that Helmut Marko may leave Red Bull to make way for Max to leave.
Apparently he has an exit clause in his contract giving him the ability to leave it Marko leaves.
Rumours are mainly that Marko could retire with Newey and Max moving away from Red Bull.
Apparently he has an exit clause in his contract giving him the ability to leave it Marko leaves.
Rumours are mainly that Marko could retire with Newey and Max moving away from Red Bull.