The ref was unsighted on Holgates offending leg.What also doesn’t sit right is Holgate was only given a yellow before VAR intervened.
Gilmour got a straight red
TBH I'm surprised he gave anything.
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[Albion] Was it a red?
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TBH I'm surprised he gave anything.
Watched it in the concourse after and it didn’t look a red at all. In the highlights shown in the ground he’s on his feet, in control and competing for the ball. The follow through doesn’t look in any way intentional. It didn’t look to me like serious foul play (see law definition below).
On that tweet it’s a stonewall red. I voted yellow on the poll before I played the tweet video. I’m minded to upgrade. He does, I suppose, endanger the opponent, though not with malice or a lunge.
But there are a lot of angles where it’s yellow at most.
Consistency is once again the issue. Plenty of other refs don’t give a red for the same challenge. And Tarkowski should have had 2 yellows before that which would have changed the course of the game such that Gilmour’s challenge doesn’t happen.
I don't think Gilmour 'lunged' particularly. Whereas Maguire definitely did.
He didn’t lunge at all but it does look from the angle Bozza showed that he endangered his opponent which is an “or” clause in the law.
London Irish
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Yes he left his foot in which is not good. Deserves his punishment
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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I agree, it’s one of those that’s border line (I’ve seen angles where it looks a red and angles where it doesn’t) I think whatever is given on the pitch VAR would back.
Sheebo
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Match Officials Mic'd Up: Why Gusto yellow card became a red
Listen to the conversation between the VAR and the referee Jarred Gillett that led to Chelsea's Malo Gusto being sent off against Aston Villawww.premierleague.com
Not completely identical, but the same sort of thing - going in a bit hard, more related to the follow through than deliberate.
Again, follow through
Way worse and deliberate imo that.
BluesRockDJ
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"Brutality" ? What planet are these law makers on ?
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
No intention to harm, but a bit reckless. No good showing it in slow motion as every foul looks horrendous at that speed. Probably a red but a different ref may have given a yellow.
Yellow for me . . . Its an accident and unintentional .
Robinjakarta
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He's a Harry. Harrys get different treatment.
Taybha
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I'd want a red if that tackle was on one of our players.
Jaxie
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i didn’t think it was even a foul at the time, certainly not a red. But then I watched RDZ as BG walked off, didn’t look at him or move to console him. So I accept that he presumably thought it was a red.
As I have said many times before, this is irrelevant. Intent has nothing to do with the laws.
That's a 5 matcher . . . Or long enough to go to Greece and get pissed and beat someone up because you can't understand the lingo they're calling you a donkey in. . .
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
I'm surprised with the consistency of replys that that was a red. Foul yes, yellow possibly, but he didn't go in two footed and he didn't go in studs up, so not a red for me.
It is a red, but it's also the kind of challenge we've seen players get away with numerous times this season. If the ref didn't give it on the field, I'm not totally convinced VAR would have intervened. Doucoure's theatrics (and no doubt Dyche's screeching) certainly influenced the refs decision.