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[News] Shemima Begum- Should she be allowed to return to the UK?

Allow Shemima Begrum back into the UK?


  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .








GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,757
Gloucester
There must be something more to this and her time abroad, they know more than they are letting on probably for security reasons.

I wonder how many times she can appeal ?
I suspect that at some time the European Court of Human Rights will poke its nose in.

Just who has paid for all these appeals?
I suspect we all have ...........................
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,599
There must be something more to this and her time abroad, they know more than they are letting on probably for security reasons.

I wonder how many times she can appeal ?
That's what I was thinking. On the basis of what has been made public I saw no reason for her not to return. Other countries have been rehabilitating youngsters.
 






nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,611
Gods country fortnightly
If a supporter of a terrorist group in Britain were to manage to get into Britain and then the country of which they were a citizen said they didn't want them back, they then become Britain's responsibility.

Have I understood correctly ?
Yep
 




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,876
If a supporter of a terrorist group in Britain were to manage to get into Britain and then the country of which they were a citizen said they didn't want them back, they then become Britain's responsibility.
Have I understood correctly ?
Or, if a supporter of a terrorist group in Syria were to manage to get into Syria and then the country of which they were a citizen said they didn't want them back, they then become Syria's responsibility.

Over to you, Syria.

That's a yes, then. You support other nations dumping their terrorist sympathisers on Britain :thumbsup:
 




rebel51

Well-known member
Jan 4, 2021
699
West sussex
Goodbye for ever hopefully. You dug your own grave I'm afraid girl.
We've got enough terrorists living over here, hiding out making plans and she joined those filth.
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,611
Gods country fortnightly
That's a yes, then. You support other nations dumping their terrorist sympathisers on Britain :thumbsup:
Unfortunately, people are reactionary. They take a view because in their own court of opinion they think justice has been served but don't think through future ramifications
 






zeemeeuw

Well-known member
Apr 8, 2006
688
Somerset
If a supporter of a terrorist group in Britain were to manage to get into Britain and then the country of which they were a citizen said they didn't want them back, they then become Britain's responsibility.

Have I understood correctly ?
It hinges on citizenship, under international law you can't withdraw a person's citizenship if that would leave them stateless. Shemima's parent's were born in Bangladesh so she is also (and now only) a Bangladesh citizen, so far the legal process has agreed with this. Not sure Bangladesh is entirely happy about this and I think they have stated she would be subject to the death penalty if she rocks up there.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,315
There must be something more to this and her time abroad, they know more than they are letting on probably for security reasons.

I wonder how many times she can appeal ?
or it could simply be the appeal lost on matters of law.
 


Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
7,998
Hangleton
It's good to see that the appeal judges rejected the latest tax-payer funded appeal although I suspect there must be many more radicalised people roaming our streets and keeping the police and security services busy; and that the risks to our culture, security and way of life are only going to grow greater and greater in future. I dread to think what the UK and Western Europe is likely to look like in 2100. I'm just glad I won't be here to experience it.
 
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nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,611
Gods country fortnightly
It hinges on citizenship, under international law you can't withdraw a person's citizenship if that would leave them stateless. Shemima's parent's were born in Bangladesh so she is also (and now only) a Bangladesh citizen, so far the legal process has agreed with this. Not sure Bangladesh is entirely happy about this and I think they have stated she would be subject to the death penalty if she rocks up there.
Its one thing taking away a secondary citizenship, but she was UK born. She's ours and we need to deal with her
 






sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
12,513
Hove
Boot them where if they don't have citizenship of anywhere :shrug:
No - my post was in response to :

"We cant complain if other countries dump problem people into the Uk now."

Boot them out if these "problem people" are in the UK ILLEGALLY.

They must have come from somewhere :shrug:
 


JetsetJimbo

Well-known member
Jun 13, 2011
950
It hinges on citizenship, under international law you can't withdraw a person's citizenship if that would leave them stateless. Shemima's parent's were born in Bangladesh so she is also (and now only) a Bangladesh citizen, so far the legal process has agreed with this. Not sure Bangladesh is entirely happy about this and I think they have stated she would be subject to the death penalty if she rocks up there.

She's apparently not a Bangladeshi citizen, she's just eligible for citizenship (in much the same way I could apply for an Irish passport if I wanted to). That's what's so insidious about this - it means anyone with a foreign grandparent now has a diminished, second-class form of British citizenship that can be withdrawn by the government.
 


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