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[Football] New blue card and 10 mins in sin-bin



Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Pick those who didn't read the article before commenting... :p.

1. They are talking about properly introducing and enforcing that only the captain can talk to the Ref. Not to mention that one of the specific areas the blue card is for is ... enforcing the showing of proper respect for the ref.

2. The article addresses this. To make sure it is easily distinguishable from the red and yellow. Orange was deemed too likely to cause confusion.
Pick those who aren't restricted by a paywall 😛
 






el punal

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Same things it is for today, with the exception of the very specific areas where the blue card is introduced. To give examples, Dunk's straight red for being verbal with a Ref might have been "only" a blue if this new rule existed. The other area blues are being suggested is for deliberate fouls designed to stop a breakaway. Except where it's last-man and a red is mandated, what we often see today is a defender "taking a yellow for the team" cynically and deliberately fouling in order to stop a break. Blue's would be used in these situations.



Would expect the same rules as for reds to apply here.



Doubt it. The article was clear that a blue counts as a yellow as well. Accumulating a blue + a yellow = a red.



Not sure you've read enough then. It looks to me like they're taking a pretty sensible approach with this. Devil is in the detail, of course, but from the article that was posted I don't see anything that screams "poorly thought through".
Accumulating a blue + a yellow = a green. Shirley?
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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The only problem is that Premier League referees will be dishing them out to 14 clubs and forgetting about them for 6 other clubs.
A bit like the yellow card for dissent, delaying free-kicks, crowding a referee, etc etc ad infinitum.
 




GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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No thanks - or more specifically, no. not in a million years. Still, it's a bad idea, so there's no doubt the footballing authorities will lap it up. Splendid opportunity for PGMOL to make a bad idea even worse.
 


Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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If it comes in it will be just another thing for refs to get wrong and be beaten by. What happens when they think it’s a blue card challenge but two mins later VAR decides it wasn’t. Are we going to have to wait for that on this as well?

Take me back to football pre VAR please. They seem determined to wreck the game.
 








Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
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If it comes in it will be just another thing for refs to get wrong and be beaten by. What happens when they think it’s a blue card challenge but two mins later VAR decides it wasn’t. Are we going to have to wait for that on this as well?

Take me back to football pre VAR please. They seem determined to wreck the game.
My earlier positive post on this idea was rather dependent on VAR f***ing off and referees being allowed to do their job regardless of what biased fans and pundits think.
 


US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
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Cleveland, OH
There needs to be something to stop those "tactical" fouls when a player pulls back someone on a break, so good. A yellow is not enough.
What also annoys me about those is when the commentator will say it was a "good foul" or that the offender "had to do it". Should give those commentators a blue card which comes with 10 minutes of STFU.
 




Colonel Mustard

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Jun 18, 2023
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Ridiculous.

Whats the yellow card for then?? How many blue cards can be issued at any one time??

Could it become a tactical part of play to entice players on the opposing side to be sin binned?

Will it slow the games down even more?? Extra time being even longer..

From what i've read, poorly thought through in my opinion.
It could of course but we already have players drawing opponents into yellow cards and red cards, so what’s new?
 


dstanman

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Jul 1, 2011
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So if a player gets a blue and yellow card in same game does the 2nd offence become a red?
 










Colonel Mustard

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Jun 18, 2023
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This does nothing to correct the biggest problem in soccer which is the standard of officiating. Any new rules or technology, no matter how good, will be implemented poorly if the standard of officiating is not drastically improved.
That should be the number one focus, not new rules.
The biggest problem in soccer is not officiating but play-acting and ill-discipline. Fair, balanced officiating is almost impossible because players contest everything, even the most obvious throw-in decision. The slightest contact sees a player writhing around on the ground like a wounded animal. This new proposal, along with this season's yellow cards for dissent and not moving 10 yards for a free kick, are all aimed at curbing the terrible behaviour of players. Whether these measures work, we'll have to see but there’s no doubt whatever that officiating would be much less controversial and better if players stopped their trantrums and just got on with the game.
 








Stumpy Tim

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The next thing (Emery and Silva will separately be working on it already), will be to minimise open play during the 10 minutes affecting them.

I hope the other officials stop the 10 minute clock during breaks in play.
Exactly this. Shite idea as it just promotes time wasting. Why can't they leave the game alone? Maybe spend some time sorting out the VAR mess
 


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