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[Albion] Stadium Observations







halbpro

Well-known member
Jan 25, 2012
2,865
Brighton
On transport, I still don’t understand why another platform hasn’t been put in at Falmer to allow for a shuttle service.

Where would you put another platform? You can't put it north of the line, there's various buildings there. South of the line there might be barely enough space, but you'd have to entirely redo the footbridge and probably have to take some of the land that Brighton University own. It would also become a FAR bigger project that side, as there's a hill that would require a lot of excavation.

You'd also likely run into platform capacity issues at Brighton station and line capacity issues between Falmer and Brighton. There's no scope to expand line capacity at all given there's several bridges and a tunnel.
 


Skaville

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2004
10,101
Queens Park
Let’s accept that we can’t expand the north stand. It’s then a case of maximising the noise from the small amount of fans in it. I’ve always assumed the major issue is the roof, which is far too high. Could we put in a lower false roof in? It would ruin the cosmetics but improve the acoustics.
 




Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
On transport, I still don’t understand why another platform hasn’t been put in at Falmer to allow for a shuttle service. Or why not build a city tram service that can serve the Lewes Road and Falmer. The latter would benefit all the office development up the Lewes Road as well.
Do you realise the IMMENSE cost of that, plus having the roads all dug up for at least a couple of years.

How big do you want your council tax to be?
 




Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
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Jul 23, 2003
34,213
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
I've been to several stadiums in the 92, and in terms of location/transport, ours is one of the worst. What is there to do in Falmer?

At least there's something to do near the other grounds and/or a nearby hotel (for the traveling fans).
So we’ve gone from “worst transport in the Premier League”, to “one of the worst” to “no hotel for away fans” in three paragraphs 😂😂

Nobody’s queuing up to stay in a hotel in Aston or Norwood for absolute certain. But that’s not really a travel criteria.

Neither is stuff to do in Falmer (where home fans can have good food, beer and the early game in The Swan).
 


Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
9,867
To be next to a dual carriageway and a station sounds great but you can only go in three directions by road when exiting with poor 'pinched' entries to them. The 'walk there's are low in total I reckon. A P&R near Lewes, with a collection and drop off using the A27 bus stops would be a boost. Roofs over the train queuing areas would be good, and the bus stops.

I was where we normally have noise, but let's face it a bus-parking visiting team on a miserable Monday night in January is a tough one to get bouncing over.
 


Krafty

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Apr 19, 2023
1,599
So we’ve gone from “worst transport in the Premier League”, to “one of the worst” to “no hotel for away fans” in three paragraphs 😂😂

Nobody’s queuing up to stay in a hotel in Aston or Norwood for absolute certain. But that’s not really a travel criteria.

Neither is stuff to do in Falmer (where home fans can have good food, beer and the early game in The Swan).
Okay, fine. The transport is not the worst in the Premier League; that goes to Aston Villa. Are you satisfied now?

That doesn't excuse our sh*t transport system though. I nearly got crushed waiting for a train once.
 




Not Andy Naylor

Well-known member
Dec 12, 2007
8,798
Seven Dials
Let’s accept that we can’t expand the north stand. It’s then a case of maximising the noise from the small amount of fans in it. I’ve always assumed the major issue is the roof, which is far too high. Could we put in a lower false roof in? It would ruin the cosmetics but improve the acoustics.
I really can't accept that. Take out the offices and open up that space. There might be a few visible girders and stuff but where there's a will ...
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
23,385
Sussex by the Sea
I'll certainly buy that the trains aren't the best, but last night underlined another major flaw.
Having watched the staff load the wheelchair fans steadily on to the locomotive, the remaining passengers with sticks etc were then barged out of the way with surges from every direction through the doors, even treading over the loaded wheelchairs.
Awful behaviour.
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
52,508
Burgess Hill
I'll certainly buy that the trains aren't the best, but last night underlined another major flaw.
Having watched the staff load the wheelchair fans steadily on to the locomotive, the remaining passengers with sticks etc were then barged out of the way with surges from every direction through the doors, even treading over the loaded wheelchairs.
Awful behaviour.
The flaw there is that some people are ***ts.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,779
West west west Sussex
Buy Stoke's stadium and relocate it.

No problem with atmosphere there even when it's half empty.
 


pocketseagull

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Dec 29, 2014
1,063
Surprising that more people don't walk back to the city really. From some of the nightmares I read on here it can't be that much longer than waiting for a train and definitely beats standing in the cold.
 




crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,536
Lyme Regis
Don't know how Wolverhampton have the audacity of moaning about our home atmosphere :lolol:

Firstly they couldn't sell out last night, piss poor following with loads of empty seats in the away end, then they barely raised a murmur.

Secondly their home atmosphere is one of the worst in the PL, and they are probably the most DULL team in the league. No wonder pour fans can't get motivated against such a depressing footballing backwater with no PL history to speak of.

Not many home atmopshere's are especially noisy with the exception of Villa Park and the City Ground.
 










MattBackHome

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
11,731
Atmosphere yesterday was abysmal, from both sets of fans. Travel shit as well but that's to be expected. Took me longer to get back to Portslade than it did to get back from Bowers & Pitsea last Monday :moo:

My highlight however was going into Dicks for the first time in YEARS and finding it to be all done up. Lovely in there now, not at all like the airport departure gate it once was. Well done Barbs x
 


jackalbion

Well-known member
Aug 30, 2011
4,044
So true. It's the equivalent of being stuck in a traffic jam rather than driving a longer route and arriving at a similar time. People psychologically hate queuing because they feel helpless and like they aren't getting anywhere.

The queues up the ramp and across the bridge to the eastbound platform were as bad last night as I've ever seen them, as no-one had any inclination (or money) to stay for a beer. Southern did a good job, though, the trains ran to time and everyone queued patiently. Believe me, the trains are so much better than a limited capacity tram or monorail service which would be swamped post-match.

PG (Behavioural Transport Economist)
Here, here!
 


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