This. One of my neighbours is palace and we fairly regularly have sensible discussions about football. Yes, I laugh when they lose, laugh at their always ultras (so does my neighbour btw) and obviously always want to thrash them, but hate? Nah, not really.
Chelsea on the other hand can f***...
I remember a Norwich supporter mate got a bit upset with us for singing βyouβre nothing special, weβve been on the pissβ or something like that anyway π