[News] Chest Feeding

[knocky1]

this is what the thread is really about, crodo has subtly raised the story B&H health trust is using political correct terms to avoid offending anyone. except everyone else who doesnt think we should force such contrived changes to language.

Gives twice as many options when a t*t w**k becomes a chest w**k.

 

[Icy Gull]

Midwives have been told to say “chestfeeding” instead of “breastfeeding” and to replace the term “mother” with “mother or birthing parent” as part of moves to be more trans-friendly and inclusive.

Well that kills this old joke stone dead

 

[Madafwo]

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You have no idea how difficult it was to write my post and not use DS and DD.

 

[beorhthelm]

I definitely don't think there should be shaming beorhthelm around "breast is best", but I do feel there things have almost swung the other way and it's almost taboo to say the hardcore, biological truth that breast milk is the absolute greatest thing for your baby. It is literally tailor made for your individual child and is like an elixir, with so, so, so many benefits and advantages development-wise and attachment-wise. Let alone for the mother - my wife feels euphoric after a good feed.

unless ive missed something, i hasnt become taboo to talk about breast milk being great food especially in first week. there is an obsession with breast milk as being the only approved food, and not breast feeding implies the mother deficient or negligent in some way. for every mother elated by feeding, there's another in despair because they couldnt for many reasons. baby getting fed is more important than how.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

this is what the thread is really about, crodo has subtly raised the story B&H health trust is using political correct terms to avoid offending anyone. except everyone else who doesnt think we should force such contrived changes to language. simple physiology means female breasts produce milk, not chests (just muscles) and no amount of inclusivity will change that fact.

So is breast cancer going to be called chest cancer in future?
Incidentally men can get breast cancer too, although it is rare. If you see any changes in your nipples at all, please see your doctor as soon as you possibly can. It will save your life.

 

[Tokyohands]

Stop it you're making me thirsty!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Very well timed thread Crodo as my wife gave birth to our firstborn on Thursday evening and we're currently on the breastfeeding journey. I've been trying to post less on NSC since then but this thread caught my attention!

I definitely don't think there should be shaming beorhthelm around "breast is best", but I do feel there things have almost swung the other way and it's almost taboo to say the hardcore, biological truth that breast milk is the absolute greatest thing for your baby. It is literally tailor made for your individual child and is like an elixir, with so, so, so many benefits and advantages development-wise and attachment-wise. Let alone for the mother - my wife feels euphoric after a good feed.

That doesn't mean that it'll work for everybody, and there are things such as tongue-tie which will make it incredibly difficult for both mother and baby. And for some people's own family dynamics, formula bottle feeding is the best option. But if this "don't put any pressure on yourself to breastfeed" causes mothers to give up at the first hurdle, I worry it's potentially harmful because breastfeeding does take time to perfect and apparently should become easier in a couple of weeks once the baby's neck and head are stronger. My wife is 5 days in and it's going okay - my daughter's weight is great, but the latch could be better. We're completely blessed to live in the same household as her aunt, who was a former breastfeeding counsellor, and the aunt's daughter who has a 4 month old. For her it took a good 6 weeks to completely nail the best position etc. We're receiving so much help and support which is unique, especially in lockdown. I wish all mothers could have access to the support we have had if they wish to pursue breastfeeding.

If my wife begins to struggle, we'll absolutely assess the other options and like another poster said, as long as your baby is fed you're doing a great job. We have back up formula milk downstairs just in case it all goes peak-tongue. I just think that in society's general need today to not make people feel bad, we may be making it taboo to extol the benefits of breastfeeding. I'd like the narrative to be that any kind of feeding is great, but breastfeeding is greater if possible.

To any mothers reading this: apologies if I come across as an arrogant man - after watching my wife give birth I am literally in awe of you women like never before. You are incredible and God is wise as us men could never, ever give birth! I just feel very passionately about child development as I worked in nurseries for a number of years.

First up congratulations new dad! Handy hint if you go down the formula milk route and YOU have to experience the joys of making up feed at 3 in the morning: make up big jug, as it were, of formula milk and keep it sealed in the fridge. You don't want to be faffing around with powder and measuring spoons and heating pans of water in the wee small hours. Just pour from jug to bottle, stick in microwave for a very short number of seconds, TEST TEMPERATURE FIRST then feed. Job done!

Oh and excellent use of the phrase 'peak-tongue' by the way

 

[BN9 BHA]

You have no idea how difficult it was to write my post and not use DS and DD.

I only know what DS and DD mean because of the mumsnet_madness Twitter account.

 

[smillie's garden]

Go over to the Wikipedia entry on breastfeeding, and you'll see that some of the most famous ever recipients of human milk are in the current BHAFC squad.

 

[sparkie]

It appears that more and more children are now bottle fed from birth, were you or your children chest fed by their mother/birthing partner??

Well done Crodo for using the new terminology that the National Word Police are now demanding total compliance with.




But really the whole episode is just another sad

 

[B-right-on]

this is what the thread is really about, crodo has subtly raised the story B&H health trust is using political correct terms to avoid offending anyone. except everyone else who doesnt think we should force such contrived changes to language. simple physiology means female breasts produce milk, not chests (just muscles) and no amount of inclusivity will change that fact.

Ah, a bit of a whoosh then. I did wonder as it was a Crodo thread. Bloody ridiculous. With all the Covid stuff going on, you'd think they would have more important things to concentrate on.

My grandson is due in May. Will have to look out for the chest feeding bumf at my daughters. Going to have fun with that.

 

[dazzer6666]

First up congratulations new dad! Handy hint if you go down the formula milk route and YOU have to experience the joys of making up feed at 3 in the morning: make up big jug, as it were, of formula milk and keep it sealed in the fridge. You don't want to be faffing around with powder and measuring spoons and heating pans of water in the wee small hours. Just pour from jug to bottle, stick in microwave for a very short number of seconds, TEST TEMPERATURE FIRST then feed. Job done!

Oh and excellent use of the phrase 'peak-tongue' by the way

Easier to just have half a dozen bottles and make them up rather than use a jug ? Long time ago but it was a ‘once a day’ job to make the bottles up for us. Both our kids ended up sleeping sooooooo much better (longer !) when we started to introduce formula milk as they weren’t getting enough.

Just heard a report on the radio about ‘chest feeding’ replacing’ ‘breast feeding’. Apparently ‘maternity’ wards are now going to be called ‘perinatal’ instead........

 

[Ludensian Gull]

Very well timed thread Crodo as my wife gave birth to our firstborn on Thursday evening and we're currently on the breastfeeding journey. I've been trying to post less on NSC since then but this thread caught my attention!

I definitely don't think there should be shaming beorhthelm around "breast is best", but I do feel there things have almost swung the other way and it's almost taboo to say the hardcore, biological truth that breast milk is the absolute greatest thing for your baby. It is literally tailor made for your individual child and is like an elixir, with so, so, so many benefits and advantages development-wise and attachment-wise. Let alone for the mother - my wife feels euphoric after a good feed.

That doesn't mean that it'll work for everybody, and there are things such as tongue-tie which will make it incredibly difficult for both mother and baby. And for some people's own family dynamics, formula bottle feeding is the best option. But if this "don't put any pressure on yourself to breastfeed" causes mothers to give up at the first hurdle, I worry it's potentially harmful because breastfeeding does take time to perfect and apparently should become easier in a couple of weeks once the baby's neck and head are stronger. My wife is 5 days in and it's going okay - my daughter's weight is great, but the latch could be better. We're completely blessed to live in the same household as her aunt, who was a former breastfeeding counsellor, and the aunt's daughter who has a 4 month old. For her it took a good 6 weeks to completely nail the best position etc. We're receiving so much help and support which is unique, especially in lockdown. I wish all mothers could have access to the support we have had if they wish to pursue breastfeeding.

If my wife begins to struggle, we'll absolutely assess the other options and like another poster said, as long as your baby is fed you're doing a great job. We have back up formula milk downstairs just in case it all goes peak-tongue. I just think that in society's general need today to not make people feel bad, we may be making it taboo to extol the benefits of breastfeeding. I'd like the narrative to be that any kind of feeding is great, but breastfeeding is greater if possible.

To any mothers reading this: apologies if I come across as an arrogant man - after watching my wife give birth I am literally in awe of you women like never before. You are incredible and God is wise as us men could never, ever give birth! I just feel very passionately about child development as I worked in nurseries for a number of years.

Congratulations to you both

 

[Madafwo]

I only know what DS and DD mean because of the mumsnet_madness Twitter account.

Yeah, me too, honest.

 

[Chicken Run]

It appears that more and more children are now bottle fed from birth, were you or your children chest fed by their mother/birthing partner??

I was bottle fed (Adopted), all three of my children were breast fed.


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[Bracknellgem]

Chest fed Is breast a taboo word or is this a joke thread?

 

[Chicken Run]

So is breast cancer going to be called chest cancer in future?
Incidentally men can get breast cancer too, although it is rare. If you see any changes in your nipples at all, please see your doctor as soon as you possibly can. It will save your life.

I’ve had two breast scans at the Nigel Porter many moons ago, thankfully each time the lump was a cyst and they drained them!

Felt quite strange being in the waiting room being the only man.


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[Thunder Bolt]

I’ve had two breast scans at the Nigel Porter many moons ago, thankfully each time the lump was a cyst and they drained them!

Felt quite strange being in the waiting room being the only man.


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Men often won't report it to their doctor because they think it can't happen to them. I'm pleased your lumps were benign.

 

[Farehamseagull]

sympathies. there's a lot of anxiety and shaming around "breast is best" mantra.

Yes there is. One thing I noticed with both of mine was that the midwives/health visitors etc, as well meaning as they were, indirectly put a lot of pressure on my other half to breast feed. She never had a problem, both boys took to it easily but other members of our family and friends found it a lot harder and had to go to the bottle.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Yes there is. One thing I noticed with both of mine was that the midwives/health visitors etc, as well meaning as they were, indirectly put a lot of pressure on my other half to breast feed. She never had a problem, both boys took to it easily but other members of our family and friends found it a lot harder and had to go to the bottle.

There are also specialist nurses there to help hold those titties (chesties) and squeeze them a bit. Don't you just love these caring nurses?