[Albion] At what point should Potter be sacked?

[Hampster Gull]

Isn't this when we really need to get behind the team

Potter is going nowhere fast, so lets all strap in for the rocky ride

 

[zefarelly]

At what point should the manager be sacked?

When the chairman/paymaster says so

We're below par, below expectations, I think, but above the perilous zone, and it's early days this season.

 

[pocketseagull]

Call yourself a fan and you have to ask that.

You posted that we were playing well and keeping clean sheets.

We've kept two clean sheets in the league this season .

 

[Farehamseagull]

At no point IMO.

He has made some odd decisions I don’t agree with (Alzate ommission?! - just bizarre), but overall he is setting us up to be hard to beat whilst playing the best football I’ve ever seen us play.

Tonight was incredibly frustrating but it’s not his fault the players shit themselves in front of goal. The players have to take a large amount of responsibilty.

 

[Deadly Danson]

I don't think I've called for a manager to be sacked since Barry Lloyd and I'm not quite there yet with Potter but I'm getting very very twitchy. I'm convinced he has the players but we repeat the same mistakes game after game and we aren't improving and that points to a management issue. I would be amazed if Bloom hasn't already asked Ashworth to line up someone else...just in case. But I really really hope he can turn the performances into points.

 

[Bold Seagull]

You posted that we were playing well and keeping clean sheets.

We've kept two clean sheets in the league this season .

Thanks for pointing out my correct use of English. Much appreciated.

 

[WATFORD zero]

From a purely personal point of view,

Not when we are playing the best football I've seen in 50 odd years of watching the Albion

But, i'm sure there are people here who know far better

 

[Guinness Boy]

From a purely personal point of view,

Not when we are playing the best football I've seen in 50 odd years of watching the Albion

But, i'm sure there are people here who know far better

Lovely football with no end product, a centre forward with the devil taken out of him and a 6ft 7 left "wingback". Also no wins.

 

[Weststander]

Mixed feelings for me.

Give him loads more time:
Hassenhuttl won 1 PL match in 19 (straddling 2 seasons) including the 0-9, now he’s doing brilliantly.
We play good possession football.
Comes across as good guy, deserving a fair crack, Bloom and Ashworth know more than us and rate him.
Our striker budget thing is in no way his fault.
Famous and deserved wins last season against Top 6.
Is it his fault that our forwards blow chances and half chances?

There are major concerns:
He looks increasingly really sad, stressed and helpless mid games, with no answers. Revealing weakness, doubts in his own ability?
Ryan and the defence are so often shaky. That’s entirely GP’s baby, he was handed a fantastic budget there, and likes the gaggle of tall guys.
Possession too far without a killer instinct in creating early openings.
We’ve regressed. Burnley and Newcastle away seem like a long time ago.
Where the fck are we going to get another 34 points?

Nothing should happen now in any case.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

From a purely personal point of view,

Not when we are playing the best football I've seen in 50 odd years of watching the Albion

But, i'm sure there are people here who know far better

Well said.


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[Bognor Seagull]

Isn't this when we really need to get behind the team

Potter is going nowhere fast, so lets all strap in for the rocky ride

Haven’t we been doing so since he joined. However 2020 has been dire.

Time to go or for the club to financially back him properly

 

[GT49er]

Here's a question for the OP.

When should you leave your missus?

When she makes a m'eh dinner for you 5 days in a row?
When she gets into a habit of not shaving her legs?
When she starts mooching about in trakky botoms?
When she finds she's 'not in the mood' a bit more often than to your liking?
When you catch her shagging the window cleaner?

Decision, decisions

First four finished her for me ...............

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

As long as the windows are still well clean, I think you sit tight.

Is that a euphemism?

 

[NooBHA]

So engrossed in the US elections I completely forgot about our game!! In fairness, I’m pretty tired too.

What a let off though. Sounds an appalling match. Anyway, doesn’t surprise me. Surprises me even less that the usual suspects still have their rose tints on. Get the bingo card out. Nil nil at home to bottom Burnley and let me guess, plenty to be positive about yes? Are we still learning?! Ref rubbish, VAR rubbish, keeper had a worldie, record number of times hit the post...

Me Too - I totally forgot all about it and engrossed in the ''Trump Downfall''

As for sacking Potter - Can't sack him. Still clear of the Relegation Zone and there are about 4 worse teams so staying up shouldn't be a problem. So I think he has to stay.

That said - Watching from the position I am in. I saw the same tide of opinion turn on CH gradually the way it seems to be turning on here and it will grow until results starts to turn in his favour. It is not nice to witness because I think Potter is doing a decent job with the standard of player he has at his disposal. I just think the Fans Expectations have been raised and when that Genie is out of the bottle it is difficult to get it back in.

The good thing about the up and coming games is that he has the International break coming up and the team often seems to have an upturn in results when there is a bit of a break in proceedings. So that may happen again after the International Break and if it does then he has enough good grace in the bank with the fans to weather this due to the attacking style of play which a lot of fans like.

Make no mistake though. Results are what will keep him in the job and not pretty football. So as soon as he picks up points again all this talk of sacking will be abated.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

At no point IMO.

He has made some odd decisions I don’t agree with (Alzate ommission?! - just bizarre), but overall he is setting us up to be hard to beat whilst playing the best football I’ve ever seen us play.

Tonight was incredibly frustrating but it’s not his fault the players shit themselves in front of goal. The players have to take a large amount of responsibilty.

Fine agree apart from corners and freekicks which he has to have an input into. They are shocking consistently and obviously tried in training. I could do better with a village team.

 

[BN9 BHA]

From a purely personal point of view,

Not when we are playing the best football I've seen in 50 odd years of watching the Albion

But, i'm sure there are people here who know far better

50 odd years of watching the Albion and you missed the late 70s

 

[Hampster Gull]

Haven’t we been doing so since he joined. However 2020 has been dire.

Time to go or for the club to financially back him properly

My trouble is i only half believe what i said

 

[Pavilionaire]

Anyone who is seriously calling for Potter to be sacked is an idiot, and here's why:

1. We are currently 2nd in the Premier League in most shots this season (105) - behind Liverpool.
2. We have the 20th - worst - ratio of shots / shots on target. Only 1 in 4 is on target. That is pitiful.
3. We've conceded 14 goals with just 22 shots on target - 2 in 3 are going in! This is also comfortably the highest ratio in the Prem with the rest 50% or less.
4. This means that after 8 matches our keeper is averaging just 1 (!) save per match. In the 2 seasons under Hughton Ryan was averaging 3 saves per game, now it is 1.Even allowing for him conceding an above-average amount for the defence to be allowing less than 3 shots on target per match - having played some decent sides - is excellent.

Number 3 is a freak stat, distorted by the excellent conversion rate of the top sides we've faced in our early games - Chelsea, Spurs, Everton Man Utd all with clinical finishers. So it will go down, and recent signs are that our defence IS getting better.

If anyone is to blame it is Maupay. His conversion rate is mediocre, he's had a bust-up with the coach, he takes too many touches.

Put Callum Wilson, Watkins or Edouard in this side and we're comfortably mid-table looking upwards. Put Ings in this side and we're pushing top 6. Sounds far-fetched? Check the stats, Southampton have less shots per game than us, less possession of the ball. It's just they convert better than we do.

And if you don't want to blame Maupay then blame the board for not selling White and using the money for that elusive top striker we've continuously been lacking. Maupay is NOT a top striker, he is an average striker at best who gets a lot of chances and occasionally one goes in.

Moder of Lech Poznan will know all about Darwin Nunez, he watched him score a hat-trick against his side Lech Poznan a coupe of weeks ago. It is heartbreaking to see Watkins and Wilson scoring goals for rival teams, just as it is heartbreaking to watch Odsonne Edouard waste a year at Celtic under a complete binner of a manager in Neil Lennon.

 

[GT49er]

At what point should Potter be sacked?

If or when we are in the Championship and not looking likely to bounce back up. Same criteria as I applied to Hughton, but TB thought different.

 

[A1X]

Is it his fault that our forwards blow chances and half chances?

Surely this is a coaching issue, which is totally his responsibility as head coach?