[Politics] 2020 US election - Joe Biden vs Donald Trump

[Mellotron]

I was contemplating it, but wondering how much merit there will be in pulling an all-nighter.

Sounds like CNN is for you.

Thanks.

One of the earliest announcers is Florida - if that goes blue, most commentators suggest those of us who want a President Biden can go ahead and get some sleep. If not, could be a long night...

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

Barricades are being built around the White House.

And buildings in DC & other cities being boarded up for fears of violence.

This really could be the most dramatic & insane election ever. Emotions have been bubbling under the surface for months, and you get the feeling they're gonna explode very soon.

I really hope it doesn't escalate into full on civil war on the streets with rioting etc though. Would be incredibly sad to see.

 

[stewart12]

rEd WAve iS cOmINg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

And buildings in DC & other cities being boarded up for fears of violence.

This really could be the most dramatic & insane election ever. Emotions have been bubbling under the surface for months, and you get the feeling they're gonna explode very soon.

I really hope it doesn't escalate into full on civil war on the streets with rioting etc though. Would be incredibly sad to see.

If Biden wins, Trump still has the button in the White House. I just hope the staff have hidden the keys.

 

[Silverhatch]

If this was an ordinary election, Biden walks it. I still think he will win, but I expect Trump to do almost anything to try and steal it.

He and his family and closest allies are desperate. The White House is his sanctuary. If he gets kicked out after one term Julius Caesar’s injuries will be but mere flesh wounds to the backstabbing Trump’ll suffer.

 

[Bozza]

Thanks.

One of the earliest announcers is Florida - if that goes blue, most commentators suggest those of us who want a President Biden can go ahead and get some sleep. If not, could be a long night...

This - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ion-2020-presidential-what-time-results-guide - suggests there should be plenty of action early on, so I'll stay up and see how things pan out.

Note to self: go and buy lots of crisps today.

 

[knocky1]

Thanks.

One of the earliest announcers is Florida - if that goes blue, most commentators suggest those of us who want a President Biden can go ahead and get some sleep. If not, could be a long night...

Biden will win with just Pennsylvania 20 votes, Michigan 16 and Wisconsin with 10 providing he doesn't lose any 2016 States. 7%, 8% and 10% respective Biden leads in these States. With a poll margin of error at 4% he wins them all and can give Trump Nevada 6 votes as a present.

The worry is the Pennsylvania vote will take a few days......................

 

[Is it PotG?]

Jury's out on which is best for the UK.

Trump is being half British himself and has business interests in the UK, he has a natural affinity for the country that Joe Biden does not. His administration has also made a free trade agreement with Britain a priority.

Biden, on the other hand, has made it clear that he would “have preferred a different outcome” to Brexit, and recently weighed in saying that if the UK exercised its powers in the Internal Market Bill — which is necessary for a true Brexit — there would be no free trade agreement between the two countries.

As the UK government pursues its plan for a global Britain, a second Trump White House would be a warm ally ready to build a stronger Anglo-American alliance to lead the free world and face its adversaries in the twenty-first century. Biden, in contrast, would seek to establish closer ties and a free trade agreement with the larger EU first.

I just dunno what to think anymore

 

[swindonseagull]

You can get Sleepy Joe for 1.63 on the exchanges. That is crazy, given his national ratings and even though it may be closer in some swing states, his implied chance would be more like 85-90% (more like 1.1-1.15 on exchanges.

Fill. Your. Boots.

Not being a gambler in the words of Ultravox ‘ that means nothing to me’

 

[Medwayseagull]

Jury's out on which is best for the UK.

Trump is being half British himself and has business interests in the UK, he has a natural affinity for the country that Joe Biden does not. His administration has also made a free trade agreement with Britain a priority.

Biden, on the other hand, has made it clear that he would “have preferred a different outcome” to Brexit, and recently weighed in saying that if the UK exercised its powers in the Internal Market Bill — which is necessary for a true Brexit — there would be no free trade agreement between the two countries.

As the UK government pursues its plan for a global Britain, a second Trump White House would be a warm ally ready to build a stronger Anglo-American alliance to lead the free world and face its adversaries in the twenty-first century. Biden, in contrast, would seek to establish closer ties and a free trade agreement with the larger EU first.

I just dunno what to think anymore

People keep missing the point that a free trade agreement is not in the Presidents gift. It would require congress approval and therein lies the real issue - the Democrats are extremely unlikely to support it.

 

[Bozza]

You can get Sleepy Joe for 1.63 on the exchanges. That is crazy, given his national ratings and even though it may be closer in some swing states, his implied chance would be more like 85-90% (more like 1.1-1.15 on exchanges.

Fill. Your. Boots.

Funnily enough, I checked the Betfair odds a short while ago and was surprised to see that Biden had lengthened a bit.

I've just got this horrible feeling that it won't play out as most of us (well, the sane and rational) ones would like to think.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Jury's out on which is best for the UK.

Trump is being half British himself and has business interests in the UK, he has a natural affinity for the country that Joe Biden does not. His administration has also made a free trade agreement with Britain a priority.

Biden, on the other hand, has made it clear that he would “have preferred a different outcome” to Brexit, and recently weighed in saying that if the UK exercised its powers in the Internal Market Bill — which is necessary for a true Brexit — there would be no free trade agreement between the two countries.

As the UK government pursues its plan for a global Britain, a second Trump White House would be a warm ally ready to build a stronger Anglo-American alliance to lead the free world and face its adversaries in the twenty-first century. Biden, in contrast, would seek to establish closer ties and a free trade agreement with the larger EU first.

I just dunno what to think anymore

Without turning this into a binfest - whatever you think about Brexit - Trump is not a warm ally to anyone but himself. We have seen enough to know he just wants people to bow down for him - before he boots them up the metaphoric arse. That is unless you have compromat on him - in which case he is a poodle.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Jury's out on which is best for the UK.

Trump is being half British himself and has business interests in the UK, he has a natural affinity for the country that Joe Biden does not. His administration has also made a free trade agreement with Britain a priority.

Biden, on the other hand, has made it clear that he would “have preferred a different outcome” to Brexit, and recently weighed in saying that if the UK exercised its powers in the Internal Market Bill — which is necessary for a true Brexit — there would be no free trade agreement between the two countries.

As the UK government pursues its plan for a global Britain, a second Trump White House would be a warm ally ready to build a stronger Anglo-American alliance to lead the free world and face its adversaries in the twenty-first century. Biden, in contrast, would seek to establish closer ties and a free trade agreement with the larger EU first.

I just dunno what to think anymore

It's a strange parallel World that you live in.

 

[The Wizard]

Quite amusing that Biden could ever be seen as the lesser of two evils. Similar to the last UK election really, choosing the lesser of two evils instead of a truly electable leader.

I do have a feeling Trump might win, I think there is going to be massive civil unrest across the US no matter what the result

 

[Mellotron]

Jury's out on which is best for the UK.

Trump is being half British himself and has business interests in the UK, he has a natural affinity for the country that Joe Biden does not. His administration has also made a free trade agreement with Britain a priority.

Biden, on the other hand, has made it clear that he would “have preferred a different outcome” to Brexit, and recently weighed in saying that if the UK exercised its powers in the Internal Market Bill — which is necessary for a true Brexit — there would be no free trade agreement between the two countries.

As the UK government pursues its plan for a global Britain, a second Trump White House would be a warm ally ready to build a stronger Anglo-American alliance to lead the free world and face its adversaries in the twenty-first century. Biden, in contrast, would seek to establish closer ties and a free trade agreement with the larger EU first.

I just dunno what to think anymore

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Tried to have a bet (accumulator) on getting all 50 States correct but can't find anyone to take the bet.

Any suggestions.....

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Quite amusing that Biden could ever be seen as the lesser of two evils. Similar to the last UK election really, choosing the lesser of two evils instead of a truly electable leader.

After four years though - the US knows how big an evil Trump is. It would be be like holding the last UK election now when we have seen how Johnson has performed. It goes to show how poor Corbyn is/was - he would still be a terrible option.

I think Biden seems a decent man, He is no Jeremy Corbyn.

 

[Is it PotG?]

It's a strange parallel World that you live in.

I look forward to our 'relationship' with Biden.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I look forward to our 'relationship' with Biden.

 

[The Wizard]

After four years though - the US knows how big an evil Trump is. It would be be like holding the last UK election now when we have seen how Johnson has performed. It goes to show how poor Corbyn is/was - he would still be a terrible option.

I think Biden seems a decent man, He is no Jeremy Corbyn.

Debatable. Biden should win but the fact it’s still being debated at this late stage shows what a divide there is in America and the fact the democratic candidate is weak. If they’d chosen a better candidate this would have been an absolute cakewalk IMO, Trumps position seems untenable yet I genuinely believe he could still win.

Biden hasn’t exactly helped himself during the election campaign either, he’s come across as a bit of a bumbling fool at times, most of his campaign work seems to have been done by celebrities and Obama.