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Yes Chef

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No it's your double standards. We know that Trump is careless with words but the Democrats are proactively organising violence. They are not the same thing at all.

I will leave you with my opening comment:

Minneapolis is a Democrat led city

The Chief of Police is a Democrat, the Mayor, Governor and Attorney General are Democrats too. George Floyd's death happened under the Democratic authority and at the hands of their police.

You asked me where Trump has condoned violence, and I referred you to the aforementioned tweet.
Where is your evidence of Democrats proactively organising violence? Just because you keep saying it, doesn't make it true
 




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You're bullies - when have I ever called you any of those things, I don't ever recall insulting you (unless using a smilie is an insult)?

I am pointing out that you never make a point without trying to provoke or incite. You justify this through thinking the insults you perceive are completely unjustified, instead of thinking, yeah perhaps if I toned it down a bit I'd get my point across. You then, as if you have no self awareness at all, say people are inciting hate. It's like you are completely oblivious to what you type, or you don't read it back to yourself. You play out this provoke - I'm the victim - provoke - I'm the victim ad infinitum.

I'm never insulted by you, or upset. I just feel the need to point out how contradictory you are because you seem completely unaware.

I have not said you have, but when you get a constant barrage of others using those terms and you jump in the mix you may get a bit of leftie this and leftie that.

You still have not really answered, how should the lockdown criminals be treated in such times?

Can you see how they will spike the R rate for the whole of the UK if this action spreads from city to city? (which it will)
These people could directly be linked with it.
Its a disgrace.
Full lockdown is just a month away.
 




Yes Chef

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I have not said you have, but when you get a constant barrage of others using those terms and you jump in the mix you may get a bit of leftie this and leftie that.

You still have not really answered, how should the lockdown criminals be treated in such times?

Can you see how they will spike the R rate for the whole of the UK if this action spreads from city to city? (which it will)
These people could directly be linked with it.
Its a disgrace.
Full lockdown is just a month away.

Maybe it is because your spiritual leader Dominic Cummings had such a brazen attitude towards lockdown that others followed suit?
 








symyjym

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You asked me where Trump has condoned violence, and I referred you to the aforementioned tweet.
Where is your evidence of Democrats proactively organising violence? Just because you keep saying it, doesn't make it true

Yes Trump made a stupid comment. I agree.

If you watch the videos I posted earlier with the two US youtubers, from the black community, you will find what you are wanting me to find for you. I don't have to work for it when you can listen yourself.
 






Lenny Rider

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The Large one has been one of the most foul-mouthed, aggressive slanderous posters and he still allowed to post.

Has the man ever had a ban?

Bit harsh, I actually liken Alan to the late Dennis Thatcher, a likeable buffoon, entertaining but ultimately harmless really.

He's the only person I know who thought it was a good idea to send John Prescott flowers re Falmer in the week of Valentines Day. :ffsparr:
 


Bold Seagull

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I have not said you have, but when you get a constant barrage of others using those terms and you jump in the mix you may get a bit of leftie this and leftie that.

Is that really a way to bring people together or not promote further division and hate? After Brexit and the election, you started threads about bringing people together, you surely have to rise above rhetoric to make that point, yet you seem to revel in provoking; even in one of your other replies above, you talk about others spreading hate, but you never see it in yourself, you're justifying your actions through division that you actually do your best to provoke and agitate.

You still have not really answered, how should the lockdown criminals be treated in such times?

Can you see how they will spike the R rate for the whole of the UK if this action spreads from city to city? (which it will)
These people could directly be linked with it.
Its a disgrace.
Full lockdown is just a month away.

Surely your question should read "how should ANY lockdown criminals be treated in such times?

They should be treated with whatever the authorities have in terms of powers at their disposal, with the least amount of risk to health and safety.

You see again, if you were consistent, there are other breakers of lockdown rules you could have been equally severe in your language with, but of course you weren't because consistency and balance aren't really your thing.
 


Chicken Run

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Bit harsh, I actually liken Alan to the late Dennis Thatcher, a likeable buffoon, entertaining but ultimately harmless really.

He's the only person I know who thought it was a good idea to send John Prescott flowers re Falmer in the week of Valentines Day. :ffsparr:

You sure you don’t mean HWT, I wouldn’t describe AW as likeable!
 




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Maybe it is because your spiritual leader Dominic Cummings had such a brazen attitude towards lockdown that others followed suit?



No one in their right mind would risk using this as a reason to put the nation at risk, only a political belief would do that.
 


Yes Chef

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Yes Trump made a stupid comment. I agree.

If you watch the videos I posted earlier with the two US youtubers, from the black community, you will find what you are wanting me to find for you. I don't have to work for it when you can listen yourself.


So there is no evidence, just your conjecture.

I tried with the videos, but I got tired with the crackpot drivel, and you were only posting them to fit your narrative.
 






Chicken Run

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Well, Britains far left at their finest are going to screw this country for good, currently squashed in a demo at central London.
So how the feck are we going to measure, what has happened if the r goes up again, will it be schools or will it be the brainless sheep led twots that are currently gathering in large crowds?
I said this in another thread and still it to believe very much true.


God help these angry fecked up people, but more importantly God help the people that could get Covid and die from those super spreader idiots.

We are now currently in a oven at 220c, thanks the media left and the sheep that understand nothing but to follow.:nono::nono::nono:

To be fair to the protesters a lot of them in this pick are wearing masks?
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Deportivo Seagull

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What are you on about, I have been constantly knocked for having a different view to the board and I throw the leftie about and and that upsets you?

Trying being called a thick, homophobic, gammon, racist and xenophobic on a scaled basis.

Your bullies and you know it.

So are you backing this obvious massive breach of lockdown rules in central London then? Or are they breaching lockdown rules beyond their limits and should be dealt with accordingly?

Which is it?

What are you on about, I have been constantly knocked for having a different view to the board and I throw the leftie about and and that upsets you?

Trying being called a thick, homophobic, gammon, racist and xenophobic on a scaled basis.

Your bullies and you know it.

So are you backing this obvious massive breach of lockdown rules in central London then? Or are they breaching lockdown rules beyond their limits and should be dealt with accordingly?

Which is it?

Are you ‘thick, homophobic, gammon, racist and xenophobic’? Haven’t met you so really can’t say and would very much like to think not, BUT the problem you have is that to many on here ( me included) you are sailing very close to the wind with your comments and views.
Your view is that anyone that doesn’t agree with you is a leftie, remainer, etc and you use it as a tactic. It doesn’t help your arguments.


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Are you ‘thick, homophobic, gammon, racist and xenophobic’? Haven’t met you so really can’t say and would very much like to think not, BUT the problem you have is that to many on here ( me included) you are sailing very close to the wind with your comments and views.
Your view is that anyone that doesn’t agree with you is a leftie, remainer, etc and you use it as a tactic. It doesn’t help your arguments.


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Everyone's got opinions but the leftie's on here like there's to be the ones heard over all other opinions, yep let's shut down EVERYTHING WE DONT LIKE

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cunning fergus

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Well, a perspective could be that protests are often hijacked by those looking for trouble, or those looking to take advantage much like the government offering a furlough or relaxed universal credit system that is exploited by criminals. You don't seem to have given any perspective to the thought that violence and looting has nothing to do with protests, and are criminal acts of those inclined to do so if the opportunity presents itself.

Worthy protests often can descend into chaos and violence because there is no control over who joins them, what groups piggy back on them, or how the police react to them. Are not most leading figures calling for peaceful protest? Your perspective is that BLM want damage to property and are encouraging it. What is the basis for this perspective and narrative? Sounds a lot like how Thatcher used to try to rationalise the treatment of the miners to those that would swallow it.


I am not sure I can be more plain.

If those protesting/inclined to violence for BLM or in memory of George Floyd want to “fight back” then the oppressors are not their local businesses which are owned by black Americans or those that employ black Americans. Those businesses would have been saved. But they weren’t. They were burnt and looted.

If those protesting/inclined to violence for BLM or in memory of George Floyd want to “fight back” then the oppressors are not young black American men. These young black American men would not be violently murdered in their thousands at the hands of other young black American men across the states. But they don’t and the murders continue.

The people looting black American owned businesses and murdering young black American men can stop if BLM matters.

Holding a BLM placard up in Trafalgar Sq or kneeling on your doorstep in Hayward’s Heath ain’t gonna stop this shit.........it’s just meaningless bollocks.
 


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