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[Football] Liverpool are the next club to announce furloughing non playing staff.
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cjd
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Glawstergull
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Sorry unhelpful and unnecessary. I apologise.
Southern Scouse
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- Jul 21, 2011
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Although I’m really pleased my club have made the correct decision at last, I’m still upset they did it in the first place.
Having read hundreds of posts from other reds on many sites all condemning it at least it proved the club are listening.
Having read hundreds of posts from other reds on many sites all condemning it at least it proved the club are listening.
I have always had a soft spot for Liverpool, yet I was outraged by their craven decision. I was consequently cynical about the recanting. But to hear Ian Wright on R5 tonight. Bless the man. He sees good everywhere. Who am I to argue? Well done, Liverpool. Onwards and upwards.
It was disappointing. But the club listened, apologised and then did the right thing. Fair play to them. Hopefully the other clubs will now follow.
GT49er
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Well, the true colour of their fans has certainly been shown. Well done all.
drew
Drew
A little knowledge can be dangerous!!
Furlong = 220 yrds
Mile = 1760 yrds
ergo a furlong is an eighth of a mile!
A furlong = 40 perches and times it by 4 perches, 22yrds gives you an acre.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Most of them.
Sadly, having skimmed the forums, there were still a minority who were incapable of removing the red specs and taking a step back. Justifying the original decision in their minds by saying that other cash-rich big businesses were making use of furlough as well - as if that somehow made it all ok.
In time, many football clubs will have to furlough the longer this crisis drags on. But the wanton speed at which some of the richest clubs in the world have immediately grasped for emergency public funds, arriving at the front of the queue to help prop up their bottom line, has been absolutely disgusting. I give little credit to the owners of LFC for reversing their decision after being shamed into it. They are beneath contempt, and join Ashley and Levy as the early prominent slimeballs in this ever-unfolding disaster.
At Seaford County Primary we were taught to chant:
"12 inches, 1 foot
3 foot, 1 yard
22 yards, 1 chain
10 chains, 1 furlong
8 furlongs, 1 mile"
dejavuatbtn
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Gordon “Loadsamoney” Taylor on the radio this morning trying to justify his union’s stand on players not taking a pay cut. Unbelievable!
Well done Liverpool for reversing their decision and well done some of their fans for getting them to reverse their decision, one that they should never have done. Hopefully this makes it harder for other PL clubs to join in by furloughing non playing staff. It was really such a stupid thing to do for such a (reltively) small amount of money.
Players have been targeted because whilst they are producing nothing for their employers they are still taking a full wage. Any other industry would have furloughed/laid off their highest earners if they were unproductive. Meanwhile players watch the lady who brings them tea, the guy who washes their kit, and the uni student who looks after the players car park being put out to grass. You know the people who wipe the players arses, they are being taken off the club wage bill effectively while Lewis Dunk continues to suck up his £60k per week with impunity. I mention LD as he is the club captain who will be on the WhatsApp group of club captains that are pulling together to hold the PFA line.
For your own peace of mind Dunky, drop it, it does you no favours, either now or in the future.
Wardy's twin
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Plenty of millionaires and billionaires who also just add no real value but just exploit their labour force or chronic housing shortages and not being told to donate 30% of their wealth.
What i do agree though it would have been brilliant if the Brighton players had set up a fund and contributed significant amounts which could be then allocated as needed.
There i of course the sustainability of the club should a) it have to pay back£50 million b) have no new income as next season is delayed c) both .
I don't know how rich TB is but if he is a billionaire then £20-50 million is not going to break his bank (what else does he spend his money on?) clearly more than that and no new funds on the horizon might have to use some rethinking.
The other thing that seems to be missed is 70% of the PL players are not from the UK if they give up money for good causes why would they feel need to contribute to the UK?
I would not DARE ask TB for £30-50 million. I am asking Lewis Dunk, who takes home in excess of £125k per month, to perhaps pay the wages of four members of non playing staff. Their earnings would probably not total more than £15k. Why am I asking Lewis Dunk (and his colleagues) to do this? Because in any other industry the highest earners producing Jack shit right now would have been laid off.
It is just an act of decency, of humanity, rather than looking like an utter arse, and that is being very polite. There is a big difference between accrued wealth, which is not in question, and current earnings by the way.
Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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Sorry the U turn by Liverpool is akin to a nonce pleading guilty.
Jesus, thats a bit fresh. Made me laugh though.
I think there is a confusion here. Some are talking of 'pay cuts'. Someone has mentioned Gordon Taylor defending why there should be no 'pay cuts'.
If footballers take a pay cut they will be the first group in society to do so. Nobody else is taking a pay cut.
But people are being furloughed, or laid off. A different thing, and something, when done for necessity rather than as a crooked act, that would not be obviated by 'pay cuts'.
It has been pointed out time and time again that if clubs cut payers wages the only beneficiary will be the owners, on their quarantined yachts in the med. The players lose out, and (more importantly) the treasury loses out. Less money to buy medicines, to put it bluntly.
I wrote somewhere the other day about how the English use ambiguous language as a way of confounding foreigners. The trouble is we also confound ourselves. 'Pay cut' being a prime example.
For the final time, hopefully, the players will find some way of diverting some of their massive income towards the COVID war. They will do it using their income. They will not be agreeing to a pay cut. Why the absolute **** should they?
However I am talking about the top half of the PL. At some point, lower down the pyramid, clubs will genuinely start to find they have a major cash flow issue. As Wrighty and others said on R5 yesterday, most clubs are not cash rich, and they operate in a prune juice economy. That means they will have to furlough. Genuine unavoidable furlough of all playing staff, though.
Or worse. I can see lots of smaller clubs going under. How are the likes of Preston, Bolton, Swindon, you name it, going to survive with no income for the rest of the year?