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[Politics] The General Election Thread

How are you voting?

  • Conservative and Unionist Party

    Votes: 176 32.3%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 146 26.8%
  • Liberal Democrat’s

    Votes: 139 25.5%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 44 8.1%
  • Independent Candidate

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Monster Raving Looney Party

    Votes: 7 1.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Total voters
    545
  • Poll closed .


B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,383
Shoreham Beaaaach
Thats not how it works is it? The government develops a budget, then spendsthe money into the economy by clicking on a computer keyboard, to credit the central bank, then takes some of it back in taxes, then just throws the money away (or actually by pressing the delete key). It neither needs to tax or borrow since in the case of the UK, it can "print" its own money.

Erm, NO it is not how it works. Ever looked at a note or coin? Does not say UK Government on it. It says Bank of England.

The BofE is a private company owned by private individuals who we are not allowed to know (sounds staggering but try and find out who owns it).

Suggest you educate yourself on the subject before you spout b0llocks....
 




B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,383
Shoreham Beaaaach
Are you trying to say that Johnson hasn’t lied to us repeatedly?

You can’t be serious.

All politicians lie, or tell half truths or fail to say things. That's the nature of the profession that they have created.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
All politicians lie, or tell half truths or fail to say things. That's the nature of the profession that they have created.
A liar amongst liars.

The one of the group of liars who has a particular reputation for lying.

Quite an accolade.
 


Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,459
The fact that they’ve now moved to the following narrative (280,000 (now) increasing to 330,000) just show’s their contempt for the electorate. This is clearly a message for former Labour Northern Brexiteers; the Tories must view them as very very dim in order to sell them the nursing lie in this current format. Disgraceful but perfectly matching the values and personality of their nasty leader, Boris the Liar.

Here is the Health Secretary lying to the electorate:

https://youtu.be/qsbqeJYskkk
The people that vote for them are dim though

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Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,214
The arse end of Hangleton
Thats not how it works is it? The government develops a budget, then spendsthe money into the economy by clicking on a computer keyboard, to credit the central bank, then takes some of it back in taxes, then just throws the money away (or actually by pressing the delete key). It neither needs to tax or borrow since in the case of the UK, it can "print" its own money.

Please tell me you don't really believe that's how it works ? In other words you're suggesting the government just creates the money it needs ? It doesn't .... although in theory it could. It would cause hyper-inflation though. For examples I'll point you to post WWI Germany ( where it was cheaper to paper your walls in money than buy wallpaper ) and more recently Zimbabwe.
 
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nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,785
Gods country fortnightly
In which case, at an average of 27.5k nurses leaving per year reduced to 8.5k per year, the Tories would need 92,500 ‘new’ nurses to hit Hancock’s figures of moving from 280,000 to 330,000. I don’t know why they are not pushing out that figure?

This stat should really help the Tories build migration from the likes of China, India & Pakistan:

‘The biggest group of foreign NHS workers are from the EU - 56 in every 1,000.’

Don't worry once "Magic Matty Hancock" really gets stuck in I reckon we'll only need 22.5k from the developing world, no one will ever want to leave.
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,953
Hove
Absolutely fake news, end!

"I don't know Prince Andrew" :stupid:

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wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,667
Melbourne
Are you trying to say that Johnson hasn’t lied to us repeatedly?

You can’t be serious.

If you care to present around 14000 individual instance then I will believe Nick the Naieve31. Johnson has lied, just like all politicians do, even JC, but throwing imaginary totals of lies around is just twaddle.
 






Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
9,907
saaf of the water
Thats not how it works is it? The government develops a budget, then spendsthe money into the economy by clicking on a computer keyboard, to credit the central bank, then takes some of it back in taxes, then just throws the money away (or actually by pressing the delete key). It neither needs to tax or borrow since in the case of the UK, it can "print" its own money.

You don't actually think that's how it works do you?

Oh dear.
 


A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
18,574
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Meanwhile, in today's "but Corbyn is owned by Russia too!" news...

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schmunk

"Members"
Jan 19, 2018
9,696
Mid mid mid Sussex
Erm, NO it is not how it works. Ever looked at a note or coin? Does not say UK Government on it. It says Bank of England.

The BofE is a private company owned by private individuals who we are not allowed to know (sounds staggering but try and find out who owns it).

Suggest you educate yourself on the subject before you spout b0llocks....

This is not true at all - the Bank of England was nationalised in 1946 and is now owned by the UK Government - it's even on their website: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/governance-and-funding

:ffsparr:
 






BenGarfield

Active member
Feb 22, 2019
317
crawley
Oi show some respect that’s the next chancellor you are talking to :D

I can cite several professors of economics, and senior financial traders who have carried out detailed research into how money actually works within the economies of countries with their own currencies who would agree with me. I realise this is going to be a major paradigm shift for some people used to the old neo-con model. How do you think it works then?
 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
47,210
SHOREHAM BY SEA
I can cite several professors of economics, and senior financial traders who have carried out detailed research into how money actually works within the economies of countries with their own currencies who would agree with me. I realise this is going to be a major paradigm shift for some people used to the old neo-con model. How do you think it works then?

As the previous poster said lay it all out maestro....after all I’m pushing you to look after the country’s ‘wealth’
 


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