[Politics] Brexit

[Bold Seagull]

Seems that BJ is lobbying EU leaders not to offer any further extensions, thereby negating the Benn Act and presenting Parliament with a binary deal/no deal choice. Which is probably the only way to stop Parliament just banging on forevermore about what they don't want. Time for everyone to move on

There is no way they'll do that. They don't want a no deal, they'd love us to hold a 2nd referendum. BJ can lobby all he likes, they know he has no power, they've just undertaken a political exercise in demonstrating to the British people it is not them frustrating the Brexit process.

 

[ManOfSussex]

He's Tweeted. I can feel his outrage. It's a 7, bordering on 8.

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[beorhthelm]

Are you new to this? Farage is interested in one thing only and that is Farage. If we get a deal then his reason to be ends. He can't milk the entity he proclaims to hate any longer and his shiny new party will be pointless. My guess is that he is desperate to end the run of never having been elected when only his name was the option to vote for. If a General Election doesn't have Brexit as the main issue then he can't go scoping for run down towns to stand in without being another pointless option on the ballot paper.

i know that but for Farage to actually want a extension is cat and dogs living together stuff.

 

[Stat Brother]

He's Tweeted. I can feel his outrage. It's a 7, bordering on 8.

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Well that's another vote, in Parliament, Boris won't get

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

And that our politicians no longer make judgements in a considered way with all the facts and details in front of them. "We have a new deal" says Boris, "It's shit" says everyone else immediately. Marvellous.

Could do a dozen different deals with Europe and these self-serving currants in parliament would reject each and every one of them, irrespective of content. They're far more interested in showboating and electioneering. Shameful abuse of power.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Seems that BJ is lobbying EU leaders not to offer any further extensions, thereby negating the Benn Act and presenting Parliament with a binary deal/no deal choice. Which is probably the only way to stop Parliament just banging on forevermore about what they don't want.

Actually, the better way (and only way IMHO) to do it is for the people to decide with an informed binding vote/referendum on the options rather than the previous advisory one. Essentially - the vote result of which type of Brexit we get automatically becomes law without Parliament having a say.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I am purely going on whats on here and have not read anything - which is more than likely a mistake.

But hasnt he just asked for an extension?

No, he hasn't asked for an extension. He's got a Withdrawal Agreement that the EU agrees with and so in Boris's mind we can leave on 31st October 2019 (OUT), then enter the transition period which lasts until 31st Dec 2020 and it is after then transition period is over we're OUT OUT.

In theory the House of Commons should be voting on Saturday on the Withdrawal Agreement he's just agreed - like they did x 3 with Theresa May's Withdrawal Agreement, but who knows what chicanery Boris and Cummings will try and implement in the next 24 hours. The word is Boris isn't keen on his Withdrawal Agreement going to a vote.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

He reckons it wont pass parliament and he wants an extension and an election.

Last chance for Farage, if it passes he wont get near a seat.

 

[nicko31]

Seems that BJ is lobbying EU leaders not to offer any further extensions, thereby negating the Benn Act and presenting Parliament with a binary deal/no deal choice. Which is probably the only way to stop Parliament just banging on forevermore about what they don't want. Which is just about every flavour of Brexit imaginable. Time for everyone to move on.

If the ERG don't vote for the deal, will they be expelled from the party?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Actually, the better way (and only way IMHO) to do it is for the people to decide with an informed binding vote/referendum on the options rather than the previous advisory one. Essentially - the vote result of which type of Brexit we get automatically becomes law without Parliament having a say.

And keep doing People's Votes til we get the 'right' result eh?

 

[Springal]

And keep doing People's Votes til we get the 'right' result eh?

Or give people a factual, informed choice!

 

[Stat Brother]

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[ManOfSussex]

I haven't seen Mark Francois comment on the deal, or indeed mention he was in the army or that his Dad single-handedly took Sword beach from the Germans, yet today. Is something wrong?

 

[Dick Head]

he needs to define Brexit then.

An inward looking, low regulation, self-reliant, one party dictatorship.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I'm trying to get my head round what this Irish Protocol means in practice.

It looks to me as though a lorry load of smoked salmon from Scotland - travelling via ferry from Scotland to Northern Ireland - destined for the dining tables of Belfast and Dublin would now be required to undergo a customs check in Northern Ireland and then pay EU import duties on the proportion of the cargo destined for Dublin.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Parliament, discussing the EU Brexit deal on Saturday

 

[Eeyore]

Everyone keeps saying, "it's May's deal" etc.

It's not, the key issues with that deal have been addressed. It was once said that the WA could not be changed under any circumstances. Fair play to the EU, they have compromised. We have addressed their concerns in relation to the Irish boarder. Compromise on both sides, and a new deal which deals with the objections to the old deal. If politicians were sincere in their objections to May's deal, then they should support this one I would have thought.

Have a read of the withdrawal agreement. It's worth the time.

The original issues raised were about more than the NI arrangements.

I won't go into it here. Just read the Act.

The government is working on everyone having had enough. Reading Twitter folk are saying how pleased they are whilst knowing nothing about the original Act.

People don't need facts. We live in a post truth world. They just need managing.

I support it because I supported May's deal. But I prefer May's deal. Again, it would take ages to explain.

 

[Publius Ovidius]

Not a cats chance in hell that this will go through.

Wonder how Boris will enact a no deal extract from Europe with the benn law.

Interesting times.

 

[vegster]

Last chance for Farage, if it passes he wont get near a seat.

Over the years Farage has been parachuted in to 5 or 6 GE or By-Election seats in supposedly prime Brexit areas, he has never come close to winning one. Not expecting our one trick pony to break that run of ducks.

 

[vegster]

Does sound like it breaks the rule on NI being treated differently to the rest of the UK. But as we all know, the NI-Eire border is an insoluble issue right from the very start.