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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
This is the problem for all to see when landlords serve more than one pint to the immature. Doubtless you will have also seen the other thread from folk who want nothing to do with this one. This pathetic and arrogant post shows why potential posters who might have something good to contribute on both sides, just despair and vote with their feet. And who can blame them?

Ooooh get you!
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,749
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
This is the problem for all to see when landlords serve more than one pint to the immature. Doubtless you will have also seen the other thread from folk who want nothing to do with this one. This pathetic and arrogant post shows why potential posters who might have something good to contribute on both sides, just despair and vote with their feet. And who can blame them?

This is the problem. People from Hastings, like me, born in the Buchanan Hospital to an NHS midwife who worked there, have to suffer people like you nowadays.

It doesn't bother us. When I lived in Brighton as an 18-20 year old in 1996 - Good people. Sussex people. The same as me.

A gammon like you who hasn't been put in A&E, let alone put in the A&E departments of The Conquest, Eastbourne General and The RSCH before they were 20 due to alcohol related Saturday nighttime violence, can do one.

It's a generic term, but I feel you're a 'DFL'.
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
So we employ builders to build more homes and employ more widwives, from the EU. Immigration is the solution, more than it is the problem

There is already a chronic housing shortage, continuing with largescale immigration makes no sense. Outside the EU, we would be free to set immigration quotas on the basis the best qualified from across the world to offset skill shortages also younger people who are less academic should be offered better paid career paths to fill the vacancies and the unemployed training to reskill.

I want to clarify what you mean by more control of our Borders, is that literal, in the sense of turning people away at the border, or control of who can work in the UK legally?
When I talk to the blokes up my local, it was not workers they were bothered about, it was asylum seekers.
Quite a few were under the impression that because Germany had accepted a large number of Syrian refugees into their borders, that they would all be eligble to come and live and work here under EU freedom of movement. This is not the case and to be eligible to live and work in the UK under EU rules, they would first have to become German citizens. For people of refugee status in Germany, it takes 3 years before they can apply to get Permanent Resident Status, to achieve it they must be able to speak German to advanced level, be largely self - sufficient and be able to accomodate themselves and any Family members. After 5 years, there is a reduction in the level of German Language skills required to attain Permanent Resident Status. This status does not allow freedom of movement to live and work in other EU states, to get that a refugee would have to have been there 8 years, and in addition to the previous language skills and ability to support themselves, will have to pass a Naturalisation test.
In 2018, 3 years after the peak of German refugees arrivals, 1800 applications from people of Refugee status were approved for Permanent Residency.

I mean the Uk deciding what levels of immigration are suitable for our needs rather than a pick any number from the 450 million EU citizens outside the UK having the right to turn up here because their particular part of the EU has gone tits up economically (probably eurozone related) no matter the societal or economic consequences. And yes I know the Uk had the power to temporarily restrict immigration from the assession countries in 2004 and we have other limited controls. I also strongly approve of equality of opportunity/access for all world citizens rather than the preferential treatment of one type of citizen.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,584
West is BEST
I walked, at lunchtime, through Hastings Old Town to the pub, where I read The Sunday Times. Now I saw the front page of today's 'Observer' when picking it up. Like you I fully appreciate a headline like that is to attract middle class drips in M&S or Waitrose to buy it - 'oh daaarlin let's get an Observer ya' - 'okay Felicity.'

As a fellow sad bast*rd who has has made, by and large, an equal amount of posts on this thread in the last 3 and half years that I have and I appreciate that I'm more intelligent, sensible, inclusive and British than you, but what the actual **** has happened to you? You're reduced to dribbling about immigrants and posting desperate links up to Guido Fawkes or The Daily Telegraph. Who the *** reads The Daily Telegraph, let alone subscribe to it? You used to be able to hold court, even though everyone knew you a knuckle dragging numbnut.

:shrug:

You call them 'undemocratic loons' ,I call them 'Tories'' but The Liberal Democrats, are what they are. My Dad first voted Liberal in 1959 and always has since. I called him irrelevant, despite him serving his country in the forces, he called me a ****, but I joined The Labour Party under John Smith as 15 year old in 1993. You're a little Englander. You're faux patrtotism is frankly embarrassing. You're not 'Eurosceptic' because 10 years ago you didn't give a **** about Europe. Well done for killing this country though. :clap2:

Brexit. :facepalm: Welsh Independence - what's your view on property prices and school catchment areas in Monmouthshire incidentally?

Good post.
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I walked, at lunchtime, through Hastings Old Town to the pub, where I read The Sunday Times. Now I saw the front page of today's 'Observer' when picking it up. Like you I fully appreciate a headline like that is to attract middle class drips in M&S or Waitrose to buy it - 'oh daaarlin let's get an Observer ya' - 'okay Felicity.'

As a fellow sad bast*rd who has has made, by and large, an equal amount of posts on this thread in the last 3 and half years that I have and I appreciate that I'm more intelligent, sensible, inclusive and British than you, but what the actual **** has happened to you? You're reduced to dribbling about immigrants and posting desperate links up to Guido Fawkes or The Daily Telegraph. Who the *** reads The Daily Telegraph, let alone subscribe to it? You used to be able to hold court, even though everyone knew you a knuckle dragging numbnut.

:shrug:

You call them 'undemocratic loons' ,I call them 'Tories'' but The Liberal Democrats, are what they are. My Dad first voted Liberal in 1959 and always has since. I called him irrelevant, despite him serving his country in the forces, he called me a ****, but I joined The Labour Party under John Smith as 15 year old in 1993. You're a little Englander. You're faux patrtotism is frankly embarrassing. You're not 'Eurosceptic' because 10 years ago you didn't give a **** about Europe. Well done for killing this country though. :clap2:

Brexit. :facepalm: Welsh Independence - what's your view on property prices and school catchment areas in Monmouthshire incidentally?

Powerful letter in the Sunday Times today ...

Nearly 40 victims of IRA atrocities have called on Jeremy Corbyn to apologise for his support for Irish republicanism, accusing the Labour leader of “giving succour” to terrorists.

In an open letter to mark the 35th anniversary of the Brighton bombing, the families of the dead demand that he condemn the terrorist campaign waged by the IRA in the 1970s and 1980s.

Corbyn has repeatedly failed to do so, saying only that he condemns “all bombing”.

The letter has been signed by 38 people who lost loved ones or were injured in 25 attacks that collectively killed more than 100 people and wounded more than 750.

They include relatives of the dead in some of the IRA’s worst atrocities, including the bombings at Hyde Park, Warrington, Enniskillen and Shankill Road, Belfast.

The letter describes the 1984 bombing of the Grand Hotel in Brighton during the Conservative Party conference, which left five people dead and 31 injured, as a “direct assault on our democracy”.

It adds: “We ask you to apologise for a career spent giving succour to violent republicanism when you should have been denouncing it. The first role of a prime minister is to keep his people safe. How can you expect people to vote for you if you fail to make this clear?”

The letter comes as a new report lays bare the extent of the Labour leader’s links to those who backed violent republicanism, including details of his parliamentary meeting with convicted IRA terrorists just days after the attack.

The report from Mainstream, a new campaign group against extremism in politics, also reveals evidence of Corbyn’s closeness to London Labour Briefing, which ran an infamous editorial after the Brighton attack claiming that “the British only sit up and take notice when they are bombed into it.”

The dossier also details how, as the finance chairman of the GLC, John McDonnell signed off a £53,000 grant to the pro-Sinn Fein Troops Out movement, of which Corbyn was a member.

In 2015 Corbyn was asked five times to condemn IRA violence unequivocally during a BBC radio interview. On each occasion he refused.

In the letter, the families write: “Many politicians on all sides . . . have worked tirelessly to secure and sustain peace in Northern Ireland and have unequivocally condemned the IRA’s acts of terror . . . When asked to condemn the IRA’s terror campaign, you refused to do so.”

A poll, commissioned by Mainstream last month, found that more Labour members — 32% — blame the British government for the bombings than they do republican terrorists such as the IRA (27%).

Ian Austin, Mainstream’s founder, said: “Thirty five years ago . . . the IRA tried to murder British democracy. Less than two weeks afterwards . . . Jeremy Corbyn invited two convicted IRA terrorists to the Commons.”

He added: “Corbyn has often claimed that his involvement in Northern Irish politics was part of a search for peace. But there appears to be no record of Corbyn ever working with any unionist or loyalist group. Any real peace campaigner knows you have to talk to both sides. He is not fit to lead . . . our country.” ......

(Letter signed by)

Margaret Veitch, daughter of William and Agnes Mullan, murdered in the 1987 Poppy Day Bombing, Enniskillen, Northern Ireland; Mark Tipper, brother of Trooper Simon Tipper, murdered in the 1982 Hyde Park bombing, London; Anne Travers, daughter of Mary Travers, murdered during the attempted assassination of her father, Thomas Travers, in Belfast, 1984; Jon Ganesh, seriously injured in the 1996 Docklands bombing, London; Stephen Gault, son of Samuel Gault, murdered in the 1987 Poppy Day bombing, and Catherine Gault, daughter-in-law of Samuel and wife of Keith Gault, injured in the same attack; Susanne Dodd, daughter of Inspector Stephen Dodd of the Metropolitan police, murdered in the 1983 Harrods bombing, London; Margaret Sefton, daughter of James and Ellen Sefton, murdered by a car bomb in north Belfast, 1990; William Flack, injured in the 1989 bombing of Summerhill Court, Northern Ireland; Philip Armour, father of Wilma McKee, murdered in the 1993 Shankill Road bombing, Northern Ireland; Maureen Barratt, sister of Tom Casey, murdered in the 1992 bombing of Baltic Exchange, London; Andrea Brown, injured in the 1998 bombing of the Lisburn Fun Run, Northern Ireland; Amanda Delaney, sister of John Anthony, murdered in 1994 by a car bomb, Lurgan, Northern Ireland; William Dixon, injured in the 1987 Poppy Day bombing; Anna Dixon, injured in the 1987 Poppy Day bombing; Serena Doherty, injured in the 1987 Poppy Day bombing; Doreen Elliott, wife of Raymond Elliott, injured in the 1993 Shankill Road bombing; Samuel Graham, brother of Kenneth Graham, murdered in a 1990 Kilkeel car-bomb attack, Co Down; Steven Clague, injured in the 1993 bombing of Warrington; Linda Clarke, sister of Nigel McKee, a construction worker murdered in the 1992 Teebane bombing, Northern Ireland; Ken Funston, brother of Ronald Funston, murdered in 1984 in Pettigo, Co Fermanagh; David Kelly, son of Private Patrick Kelly of the Irish army, murdered in 1983 in the Don Tidey kidnap case in Co Leitrim; Karen McAnerney, sister of Terence McKeever, a contractor who was kidnapped and murdered in 1986 and his body left on the South Armagh border; Pam Morrison, sister of Ronnie, Cecil and Jimmy Graham, part-time Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR) soldiers murdered individually in 1981, 1981 and 1985, in South Fermanagh; Neil Tattersall, injured by the 1992 Manchester bomb; James Leatherbarrow, private in 1st Battalion the Light Infantry, injured in the 1988 Ballygawley bus bombing, Omagh, Northern Ireland; The Rev Alan Irwin, son of Private Thomas Irwin and nephew of Corporal Frederick Irwin, part-time UDR soldiers murdered in 1986 and 1979, Dungannon and Omagh, Northern Ireland; Gary Murray, brother of Leanne Murray, murdered aged 13 in 1993 in the Shankill Road bombing; John Sproule, brother of Ian Sproule, murdered in 1991 in Castlederg, Northern Ireland; Ruth Forrest, sister of David Harkness, murdered in 1992 in the Teebane bombing; Mavis Clarke, aunt of Alan Jack, five months old, murdered in 1972 in Strabane, Northern Ireland; Sandra Harrison, sister of Lance-Corporal Alan Johnston, murdered in 1988 in Kilkeel, Co Down; Marcus Babington, son of Henry Babington, murdered in 1989 in Belfast; Tanya Bloomfield, survivor of the 1988 bomb attack on her family home and her father, Sir Kenneth Bloomfield, head of the Northern Ireland civil service, Crawfordsburn, Co Down; Justice 371 Campaign, Scotland, on behalf of Dougald McCaughey and Joseph and John McCaig, three off-duty British soldiers murdered in 1971, Northern Ireland


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...ror-tell-jeremy-corbyn-to-apologise-dn32lr8bj

So I can understand why you are a bit 'tired and emotional', as every time someone criticises the dear leader or Dianne Abbott or mentions immigration you go off on one. Your Dad sounds like a very good judge of character ...
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,584
West is BEST
Powerful letter in the Sunday Times today ...

Nearly 40 victims of IRA atrocities have called on Jeremy Corbyn to apologise for his support for Irish republicanism, accusing the Labour leader of “giving succour” to terrorists.

In an open letter to mark the 35th anniversary of the Brighton bombing, the families of the dead demand that he condemn the terrorist campaign waged by the IRA in the 1970s and 1980s.

Corbyn has repeatedly failed to do so, saying only that he condemns “all bombing”.

The letter has been signed by 38 people who lost loved ones or were injured in 25 attacks that collectively killed more than 100 people and wounded more than 750.

They include relatives of the dead in some of the IRA’s worst atrocities, including the bombings at Hyde Park, Warrington, Enniskillen and Shankill Road, Belfast.

The letter describes the 1984 bombing of the Grand Hotel in Brighton during the Conservative Party conference, which left five people dead and 31 injured, as a “direct assault on our democracy”.

It adds: “We ask you to apologise for a career spent giving succour to violent republicanism when you should have been denouncing it. The first role of a prime minister is to keep his people safe. How can you expect people to vote for you if you fail to make this clear?”

The letter comes as a new report lays bare the extent of the Labour leader’s links to those who backed violent republicanism, including details of his parliamentary meeting with convicted IRA terrorists just days after the attack.

The report from Mainstream, a new campaign group against extremism in politics, also reveals evidence of Corbyn’s closeness to London Labour Briefing, which ran an infamous editorial after the Brighton attack claiming that “the British only sit up and take notice when they are bombed into it.”

The dossier also details how, as the finance chairman of the GLC, John McDonnell signed off a £53,000 grant to the pro-Sinn Fein Troops Out movement, of which Corbyn was a member.

In 2015 Corbyn was asked five times to condemn IRA violence unequivocally during a BBC radio interview. On each occasion he refused.

In the letter, the families write: “Many politicians on all sides . . . have worked tirelessly to secure and sustain peace in Northern Ireland and have unequivocally condemned the IRA’s acts of terror . . . When asked to condemn the IRA’s terror campaign, you refused to do so.”

A poll, commissioned by Mainstream last month, found that more Labour members — 32% — blame the British government for the bombings than they do republican terrorists such as the IRA (27%).

Ian Austin, Mainstream’s founder, said: “Thirty five years ago . . . the IRA tried to murder British democracy. Less than two weeks afterwards . . . Jeremy Corbyn invited two convicted IRA terrorists to the Commons.”

He added: “Corbyn has often claimed that his involvement in Northern Irish politics was part of a search for peace. But there appears to be no record of Corbyn ever working with any unionist or loyalist group. Any real peace campaigner knows you have to talk to both sides. He is not fit to lead . . . our country.” ......

(Letter signed by)

Margaret Veitch, daughter of William and Agnes Mullan, murdered in the 1987 Poppy Day Bombing, Enniskillen, Northern Ireland; Mark Tipper, brother of Trooper Simon Tipper, murdered in the 1982 Hyde Park bombing, London; Anne Travers, daughter of Mary Travers, murdered during the attempted assassination of her father, Thomas Travers, in Belfast, 1984; Jon Ganesh, seriously injured in the 1996 Docklands bombing, London; Stephen Gault, son of Samuel Gault, murdered in the 1987 Poppy Day bombing, and Catherine Gault, daughter-in-law of Samuel and wife of Keith Gault, injured in the same attack; Susanne Dodd, daughter of Inspector Stephen Dodd of the Metropolitan police, murdered in the 1983 Harrods bombing, London; Margaret Sefton, daughter of James and Ellen Sefton, murdered by a car bomb in north Belfast, 1990; William Flack, injured in the 1989 bombing of Summerhill Court, Northern Ireland; Philip Armour, father of Wilma McKee, murdered in the 1993 Shankill Road bombing, Northern Ireland; Maureen Barratt, sister of Tom Casey, murdered in the 1992 bombing of Baltic Exchange, London; Andrea Brown, injured in the 1998 bombing of the Lisburn Fun Run, Northern Ireland; Amanda Delaney, sister of John Anthony, murdered in 1994 by a car bomb, Lurgan, Northern Ireland; William Dixon, injured in the 1987 Poppy Day bombing; Anna Dixon, injured in the 1987 Poppy Day bombing; Serena Doherty, injured in the 1987 Poppy Day bombing; Doreen Elliott, wife of Raymond Elliott, injured in the 1993 Shankill Road bombing; Samuel Graham, brother of Kenneth Graham, murdered in a 1990 Kilkeel car-bomb attack, Co Down; Steven Clague, injured in the 1993 bombing of Warrington; Linda Clarke, sister of Nigel McKee, a construction worker murdered in the 1992 Teebane bombing, Northern Ireland; Ken Funston, brother of Ronald Funston, murdered in 1984 in Pettigo, Co Fermanagh; David Kelly, son of Private Patrick Kelly of the Irish army, murdered in 1983 in the Don Tidey kidnap case in Co Leitrim; Karen McAnerney, sister of Terence McKeever, a contractor who was kidnapped and murdered in 1986 and his body left on the South Armagh border; Pam Morrison, sister of Ronnie, Cecil and Jimmy Graham, part-time Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR) soldiers murdered individually in 1981, 1981 and 1985, in South Fermanagh; Neil Tattersall, injured by the 1992 Manchester bomb; James Leatherbarrow, private in 1st Battalion the Light Infantry, injured in the 1988 Ballygawley bus bombing, Omagh, Northern Ireland; The Rev Alan Irwin, son of Private Thomas Irwin and nephew of Corporal Frederick Irwin, part-time UDR soldiers murdered in 1986 and 1979, Dungannon and Omagh, Northern Ireland; Gary Murray, brother of Leanne Murray, murdered aged 13 in 1993 in the Shankill Road bombing; John Sproule, brother of Ian Sproule, murdered in 1991 in Castlederg, Northern Ireland; Ruth Forrest, sister of David Harkness, murdered in 1992 in the Teebane bombing; Mavis Clarke, aunt of Alan Jack, five months old, murdered in 1972 in Strabane, Northern Ireland; Sandra Harrison, sister of Lance-Corporal Alan Johnston, murdered in 1988 in Kilkeel, Co Down; Marcus Babington, son of Henry Babington, murdered in 1989 in Belfast; Tanya Bloomfield, survivor of the 1988 bomb attack on her family home and her father, Sir Kenneth Bloomfield, head of the Northern Ireland civil service, Crawfordsburn, Co Down; Justice 371 Campaign, Scotland, on behalf of Dougald McCaughey and Joseph and John McCaig, three off-duty British soldiers murdered in 1971, Northern Ireland


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...ror-tell-jeremy-corbyn-to-apologise-dn32lr8bj

So I can understand why you are a bit 'tired and emotional', as every time someone criticises the dear leader or Dianne Abbott or mentions immigration you go off on one. Your Dad sounds like a very good judge of character ...

Their ire would be better spent on Johnson who this Saturday, announced he has reneged on his promise not to prosecute British soldiers accused of breaking the law during the troubles.
Instead of using the victims of atrocities and their families to further your anti-Corbyn cause, have a look at the lies Johnson has told concerning NI.

Johnson is using the cover of Brexit to get away with some pretty hefty stuff. If that news had been released outside of a Brexit climate your mob would be calling for his head.
 
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Dick Head

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Jan 3, 2010
13,646
Quaxxann
Mehdi Hasan > Fiona Bruce
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,987
Crawley
There is already a chronic housing shortage, continuing with largescale immigration makes no sense. Outside the EU, we would be free to set immigration quotas on the basis the best qualified from across the world to offset skill shortages also younger people who are less academic should be offered better paid career paths to fill the vacancies and the unemployed training to reskill.



I mean the Uk deciding what levels of immigration are suitable for our needs rather than a pick any number from the 450 million EU citizens outside the UK having the right to turn up here because their particular part of the EU has gone tits up economically (probably eurozone related) no matter the societal or economic consequences. And yes I know the Uk had the power to temporarily restrict immigration from the assession countries in 2004 and we have other limited controls. I also strongly approve of equality of opportunity/access for all world citizens rather than the preferential treatment of one type of citizen.

EU citizens may turn up here because things have gone tits up at home, but they can only stay if they can find work and support themselves, and it works the other way round, when things have gone tits up here, Brits have gone to work in Europe.
There is an issue if there is an oversupply of certain skills, which can suppress the wage and that in turn can discourage young people from taking training to get those skills. There is some experience of that in some construction trades, but construction has always been largely an itinerant workforce, you go where the work is. Auf Weidersehn, Pet.
 


Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
This is the problem for all to see when landlords serve more than one pint to the immature. Doubtless you will have also seen the other thread from folk who want nothing to do with this one. This pathetic and arrogant post shows why potential posters who might have something good to contribute on both sides, just despair and vote with their feet. And who can blame them?

But this is a pathetic and arrogant post.
If you were to disappear others may have a go on the thread.
 




Hastings gull

Well-known member
Nov 23, 2013
4,635
This is the problem. People from Hastings, like me, born in the Buchanan Hospital to an NHS midwife who worked there, have to suffer people like you nowadays.

It doesn't bother us. When I lived in Brighton as an 18-20 year old in 1996 - Good people. Sussex people. The same as me.

A gammon like you who hasn't been put in A&E, let alone put in the A&E departments of The Conquest, Eastbourne General and The RSCH before they were 20 due to alcohol related Saturday nighttime violence, can do one.

It's a generic term, but I feel you're a 'DFL'.

You silly little boy. I am from Brighton and how can you possibly know what experience I have had of A@E, and in any case what has that got to do with the thread? If you did but know how wrong you are. Get to bed, and don't let me hear of you going into the Old Town, and having a wine gum and a sniff of the bar maid's apron again. That way we might get something bordering on the sensible.
 














nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,649
Gods country fortnightly


Good work...

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Meanwhile Tice is still spinning the article 24 lie, that died on its ar*e months ago...
 






dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
I walked, at lunchtime, through Hastings Old Town to the pub, where I read The Sunday Times. Now I saw the front page of today's 'Observer' when picking it up. Like you I fully appreciate a headline like that is to attract middle class drips in M&S or Waitrose to buy it - 'oh daaarlin let's get an Observer ya' - 'okay Felicity.'

As a fellow sad bast*rd who has has made, by and large, an equal amount of posts on this thread in the last 3 and half years that I have and I appreciate that I'm more intelligent, sensible, inclusive and British than you, but what the actual **** has happened to you? You're reduced to dribbling about immigrants and posting desperate links up to Guido Fawkes or The Daily Telegraph. Who the *** reads The Daily Telegraph, let alone subscribe to it? You used to be able to hold court, even though everyone knew you a knuckle dragging numbnut.

:shrug:

You call them 'undemocratic loons' ,I call them 'Tories'' but The Liberal Democrats, are what they are. My Dad first voted Liberal in 1959 and always has since. I called him irrelevant, despite him serving his country in the forces, he called me a ****, but I joined The Labour Party under John Smith as 15 year old in 1993. You're a little Englander. You're faux patrtotism is frankly embarrassing. You're not 'Eurosceptic' because 10 years ago you didn't give a **** about Europe. Well done for killing this country though. :clap2:

Brexit. :facepalm: Welsh Independence - what's your view on property prices and school catchment areas in Monmouthshire incidentally?

What's so difficult about trying to see things from someone elses perspective without calling them names and assuming that you are better than them? You have a different opinion, fair enough, but you are so full of hate, you aren't showing much (or any) sign of being intelligent, sensible or inclusive at all, sorry. You're just angry, rude, nasty, closed minded and prejudiced. I guess you think that because it's not someones race or sexuality that you are going after, it's totally fine, but actually it's not. You come across as everything you profess to hate, and nothing you profess to be.
 


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