[Football] Liverpool F.C.

[BN9 BHA]

A lot of reds in Liverpool are of Irish descent, therefore Catholic.

Evertonians tend to be Protestant.

Understood, but I don't remember ever seeing banners like this in the past when Liverpool were winning everything.
And the banners don't say " we're Irish not English "
Also Everton fans from the city must also be Scouce.

 

[Gregory2Smith1]

As a kid I remember Liverpool winning 4 European titles between 1977- 1984 with Forest twice and Aston Villa winning once, which was a golden age of English dominance in Europe. Most players at the time were British as well. Not sure why the national team were awful in that time really.

they weren't really

74 knocked out by Poland who reached the semi finals
78 knocked out by Italy,only team to beat the winners Argentina
82 never lost a game,beat France 3-1 who reachd the semi finals

 

[dangull]

they weren't really

74 knocked out by Poland who reached the semi finals
78 knocked out by Italy,only team to beat the winners Argentina
82 never lost a game,beat France 3-1 who reachd the semi finals

Statistics and excuses. Facts are a fairly ordinary England side got to a semi final this year.

 

[Gregory2Smith1]

I prefer Liverpool to Man Utd, as though both clubs have a similar record in terms of trophy's won, Liverpool 5 European cups to United 3- United 20 titles to 18 Liverpool. It seems Man Utd have always had an advantage in terms of finances, being maybe the 'biggest' club in the world and until recently Anfield only having a capacity of around 44,000 compared to Old Trafford. That's why I haven't got much respect for Man City or Chelsea recent achievements.


Not saying Liverpool don't have a financial advantage compared to most clubs, just not as much.

pretty sure man utd would trade those 2 european cups for league titles

liverpool are the most successful english club

don't particulary like both clubs,but I like the fact the scousers have that over the mancs

and it's something that's unlikely to change anytime soon

 

[vegster]

I've never tried on here for one moment to disguise the fact I'm a JCL.

Always loved football and played to a low but successful standard as a schoolkid in Bradford. Used to go and watch Bradford City in the old 4th now and again. Parents divorced when I was 12, Mum left and went to Blackpool, Oldham and Salford for short periods, then settled in Knutsford. Step-dad and his family all mad Man Utd fans, as was everyone else I knew up there, so I got invited to quite a lot of games. Friend played for them at the time, so I also used to get to meet the players when they were out socialising.

Moved down to Eastbourne in '89 (still went back up North every week to see family). Got married in '94 and my first wife's family were all Brighton fans, so I was exposed to 'Seagull Chat' aplenty. Even after I split with my first wife I remained friends with the blokes in her family, so got to know plenty about the Albion. Never went to any games, though. I was branded the 'Man Utd' fan because of my connections, and I suppose I was. Never bought the kit, or any 'Merch' - but always wanted them to win given a choice. Got a bit bored with everyone in my families sense of entitlement and expectations when it came to Man Utd, which I why I commented on another thread about Man City fans probably feeling the same.

So, (and I'm sure many people do this) I always used to look for the Bradford City, Brighton and Man Utd scores first - then the rest.

5 years ago, the owner of the business next to mine invited me to an Albion game, along with my Son. He's a 1901 member with 4 seats in the West... I accepted as I love to watch live football. Although the standard was a bit 'hoof and run' compared to the PL, I was taken aback by the Amex as a ground - and just how extremely well run the club was. I'm afraid I don't buy into the corporate side with the sit-down meals and so on, but even that was done to the same standards (and better) than when I'd been to Old Trafford on the corporates.

I mentioned I'd love to come along again if he had any last minute cancellations, and would happily pay for the tickets. The ground wasn't always full, but the North were a noisy bunch and the support was genuine - the place started to properly grow on me.

So, when I had the chance to buy ST's for myself and my Son - I did. I never quite expected to be watching Brighton in the PL quite as quickly as it happened, but that was a bonus. I loved the attacking football we played in the Championship - it was electric at times, and I always used to read NSC as a 'guest'.

Naturally the more hours you spend supporting a club, learning, getting to know the the history and what the club has been through - the more you come to appreciate. I'm afraid I don't give a shit about some has-been taking some shrapnel out of his pocket and throwing it to the floor. I was a small child living in Bradford at the time! I do appreciate the rivalry some people feel, though - and all bar a couple of the Palace supporters I know are, frankly, a bit twattish. Same with Millwall, Middlesbrough, Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday fans. Why them, I don't know - but they all seem to follow a set pattern!

Anyway... what struck me about BHAFC is the way it's run - from the bottom to the top. It's classy, genuine, thorough - and has great standards. I love the fact there's not one Albion player I think is a genuine idiot, the Manager is a fantastic person, the owner is a decent and humble multi-millionaire (rare breed), and everyone associated with the club is proud to be so. The feeling I get when I think of Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club, put simply, makes me smile. I love Sussex, it's my home - and I'm proud for Sussex that they have the Albion.

So, that's me. A Championship JCL. I'd renew my Season Ticket if we were in League 2 - I don't care, really. I love the 'seat of your pants' feeling you get watching us, not knowing if we'll be sublime or shite. It's what football is all about.

Lambast me if you will. I have no real right to be on here amongst battle-hardened, age-old Brighton fans - but you're a bloody good bunch and I'm chuffed to be on here.

That's probably the best application to be a fan for a long time ! Respect !

 

[Gregory2Smith1]

Statistics and excuses. Facts are a fairly ordinary England side got to a semi final this year.

not really,just saying they weren't an awful team back then

easier to qualify these days

 

[Knocky's Nose]

That's probably the best application to be a fan for a long time ! Respect !

Have I got the job?

 

[dangull]

pretty sure man utd would trade those 2 european cups for league titles

liverpool are the most successful english club

don't particulary like both clubs,but I like the fact the scousers have that over the mancs

and it's something that's unlikely to change anytime soon

That's an interesting point of view. European champions trumps a domestic title for me. Unless your Real Madrid, these things are very rare.

 

[Trevor]

I've worked a bit in Liverpool - really liked it. Yes, I agree - of the teams that have been really successful in my adult life I've found them the least obnoxious. I do think that there is sometimes a "victim mentality". The Liverpool fans were totally innocent at Hillsborough - less so at Heysel. I do get irritated with teams that seem to think they have the most passionate fans (Newcastle and Liverpool seem to be the worst offenders here) - and I always thought that Keggy Keegle was a total tw@t

 

[Lower West Stander]

Always the victim never your fault sums them up entirely for me.

They wallow in self sympathy and I think they get a very easy time in the press - a result I reckon of the appalling coverage in the Sun post Hillsborough.

We never hear about Heysel, Suarez racism, their fans throwing bottles at away team buses etc.

Can’t stand them. And the city is a dump.


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[Saunders]

Understood, but I don't remember ever seeing banners like this in the past when Liverpool were winning everything.
And the banners don't say " we're Irish not English "
Also Everton fans from the city must also be Scouce.

hmm the half and half celtic liverpool scarves of the time beg to differ.

 

[BN41Albion]

I've never tried on here for one moment to disguise the fact I'm a JCL.

Always loved football and played to a low but successful standard as a schoolkid in Bradford. Used to go and watch Bradford City in the old 4th now and again. Parents divorced when I was 12, Mum left and went to Blackpool, Oldham and Salford for short periods, then settled in Knutsford. Step-dad and his family all mad Man Utd fans, as was everyone else I knew up there, so I got invited to quite a lot of games. Friend played for them at the time, so I also used to get to meet the players when they were out socialising.

Moved down to Eastbourne in '89 (still went back up North every week to see family). Got married in '94 and my first wife's family were all Brighton fans, so I was exposed to 'Seagull Chat' aplenty. Even after I split with my first wife I remained friends with the blokes in her family, so got to know plenty about the Albion. Never went to any games, though. I was branded the 'Man Utd' fan because of my connections, and I suppose I was. Never bought the kit, or any 'Merch' - but always wanted them to win given a choice. Got a bit bored with everyone in my families sense of entitlement and expectations when it came to Man Utd, which I why I commented on another thread about Man City fans probably feeling the same.

So, (and I'm sure many people do this) I always used to look for the Bradford City, Brighton and Man Utd scores first - then the rest.

5 years ago, the owner of the business next to mine invited me to an Albion game, along with my Son. He's a 1901 member with 4 seats in the West... I accepted as I love to watch live football. Although the standard was a bit 'hoof and run' compared to the PL, I was taken aback by the Amex as a ground - and just how extremely well run the club was. I'm afraid I don't buy into the corporate side with the sit-down meals and so on, but even that was done to the same standards (and better) than when I'd been to Old Trafford on the corporates.

I mentioned I'd love to come along again if he had any last minute cancellations, and would happily pay for the tickets. The ground wasn't always full, but the North were a noisy bunch and the support was genuine - the place started to properly grow on me.

So, when I had the chance to buy ST's for myself and my Son - I did. I never quite expected to be watching Brighton in the PL quite as quickly as it happened, but that was a bonus. I loved the attacking football we played in the Championship - it was electric at times, and I always used to read NSC as a 'guest'.

Naturally the more hours you spend supporting a club, learning, getting to know the the history and what the club has been through - the more you come to appreciate. I'm afraid I don't give a shit about some has-been taking some shrapnel out of his pocket and throwing it to the floor. I was a small child living in Bradford at the time! I do appreciate the rivalry some people feel, though - and all bar a couple of the Palace supporters I know are, frankly, a bit twattish. Same with Millwall, Middlesbrough, Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday fans. Why them, I don't know - but they all seem to follow a set pattern!

Anyway... what struck me about BHAFC is the way it's run - from the bottom to the top. It's classy, genuine, thorough - and has great standards. I love the fact there's not one Albion player I think is a genuine idiot, the Manager is a fantastic person, the owner is a decent and humble multi-millionaire (rare breed), and everyone associated with the club is proud to be so. The feeling I get when I think of Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club, put simply, makes me smile. I love Sussex, it's my home - and I'm proud for Sussex that they have the Albion.

So, that's me. A Championship JCL. I'd renew my Season Ticket if we were in League 2 - I don't care, really. I love the 'seat of your pants' feeling you get watching us, not knowing if we'll be sublime or shite. It's what football is all about.

Lambast me if you will. I have no real right to be on here amongst battle-hardened, age-old Brighton fans - but you're a bloody good bunch and I'm chuffed to be on here.

Nice!

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Statistics and excuses. Facts are a fairly ordinary England side got to a semi final this year.

Which just goes to show you aren’t necessarily crap if you get knocked out early and not necessarily good if you do well. A disproportionate amount of success and failure is down to luck. OK, the better you are, the luckier you become but football is still and always will be a bit of a lottery

 

[BN9 BHA]

hmm the half and half celtic liverpool scarves of the time beg to differ.

Beg to differ what?

 

[Weststander]

not really,just saying they weren't an awful team back then

easier to qualify these days

This. In 1977 only one each group qualified and a great Italian side just pipped us.

Plus the greatest English club teams then were a mixture from all the home nations and the Republic of Ireland.

 

[Weststander]

Pah!

Im a Brighton fan, I couldn’t give a monkeys about any other team. Liverpool, Manchester(s) and all the rest mean nothing to me.

Oh, Vienna

 

[Saunders]

Beg to differ what?

That there has always been a strong connection with Irish/celtic side of Liverpool for Liverpool FC and not the English protestant. To say this is more recent is ignorant.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Whilst they have had a similar level of success, Liverpool F.C. do not seem to be disliked as Man U. At worst people seem ambivalent to them whereas Man U often engender hatred.

And demand at the AMEX shows that we want to see them more than any other team.

So, why is this?

Personally, I have always found Liverpool to be one of the friendliest places on Earth and I have a lot of time for scousers and the city itself. I hope they win the league.

Is it not simply that Man Utd's rise coincided with Sky and the start of the Premier League, the subsequent wall to wall coverage and the medias obsession with raising bang average pretty boys and mad Frenchmen to Deity status? This engendered hatred among non-believers to levels not previously seen, I reckon.

The only time I visited Liverpool, I left with pneumonia. I have not been back.

 

[Weststander]

That there has always been a strong connection with Irish/celtic side of Liverpool for Liverpool FC and not the English protestant. To say this is more recent is ignorant.

That’s a fact.

But long since dissipated with the end of sectarianism in Liverpool, and they have a mass of both Proddy and Catholic fans travelling to matches from all of Ireland.

 

[Saunders]

That’s a fact.

But long since dissipated with the end of sectarianism in Liverpool, and they have a mass of both Proddy and Catholic fans travelling to matches from all of Ireland.

True but the point being made was that this anti English connection was more recent when actually its the other way around.