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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Just been watching a piece on the news about JCB's new electrically powered excavator.Designed,and manufactured at Rocester.'Just an assembly plant',I believe a know-nothing dunce said on here!
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
24,596
West is BEST
Just been watching a piece on the news about JCB's new electrically powered excavator.Designed,and manufactured at Rocester.'Just an assembly plant',I believe a know-nothing dunce said on here!

Huzah! We're saved. I doubt they have much choice though seeing as it's their World HQ. It's not easy to move a manafacturing plant, it's not a bank.
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
I really don't think anyone is gonna buy this reinventing of yourself as some sort of one man cultural knowledge pool, I'm afraid. If you valued culture you wouldn't have voted Leave, Fact.

I can use the internet as well as somebody pretending to be an expert on for example 'Chicago architecture' and giving us a copy and paste from Wiki and the Rough Guide.As for what you or any other dumb remainer thinks,I don't give a bent cent.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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I can use the internet as well as somebody pretending to be an expert on for example 'Chicago architecture' and giving us a copy and paste from Wiki and the Rough Guide.As for what you or any other dumb remainer thinks,I don't give a bent cent.

I don't actually know what you're on about.
 






Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
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The arse end of Hangleton
I predict on this thread that there will be no end of ad hominen attacks on Christopher Wylie, because his testimony ought to have an explosive effect.

I agree with you but given the stance he's taking I'll have little sympathy. Instead of making the misuse of data his main theme, he seems to be in it for revenge.

"He said his motivation for going public was to bring down Cambridge Analytica and SCL, from which "nothing good" had come."
 






Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Point of fact by very definition, Baby Boomers would not have been old enough to fight in the war.
I personally have no problem with BB's at all. The world changed and they reaped rewards. It's not like they sat on their backsides it's that most of them made a good fist of the new opportunities.

We will never see a generation like it again nor will we ever see those opportunities again. However, my generation will benefit from their opportunities through inheritance. If you're clever you can look after that reduce tax you pay on it. So to dismiss BB's as ruining the country I do not agree with. Yes, many voted leave but that's the lies the Leave campaign told and they are certainly no more to blame than your average thicko leave voter.

It needn't have come to this though. Those that wanted to return to England in the 1950's where men were men and women were hairier, where shops closed on Wednesday afternoons, where the Missus had to get the husbands signature to buy a washing machine, where we ate canned food and spam, where the only noise at the breakfast table was the odd "tut" from behind Father's copy of the times, those that wanted this life could have just ****ed off to Australia and left the rest of us to our decent lives.

I recall reading somewhere (sorry can't reference it) that the optimal year to be born (free NHS, opportunities, pension, low house prices, chance of social mobility and the like) was 1948. The only common denominator between then and now is that the Aussies thrashed us - but then the buggers probably just used Brylcream to mess around with the ball!
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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There was a guy on telly last night who referred to the way that the older generation had been vilified for voting out( if they indeed did). He suggested that if it wasn't for his generation sacrificing themselves in wars the world and the UK itself would be nafery different place than it is now.

I think it's generally accepted by all sides that older generations voted out and the following is correct (awaits BBC liberal leftist conspiracy theorists :lolol:)

age-groups-vote.jpg

And to be fair, any survivors from WW2 must be well into their 90's by now, so if he was referring to 'his generation' he must be of a similar age.
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
16,705
Fiveways
I agree with you but given the stance he's taking I'll have little sympathy. Instead of making the misuse of data his main theme, he seems to be in it for revenge.

"He said his motivation for going public was to bring down Cambridge Analytica and SCL, from which "nothing good" had come."

FYI, Dominic Cumming has started denigrating Wylie already. Can I just say that you have the good sense to recognise that something deeply nefarious has been at play, and that brings the 2016 result into question if proven. This just goes to show that the rule of law needs to be respected, and trumps specific position on Brexit. I'm not so sure that there will be others on this thread that agree with you on that.
As regards your point, I disagree I'm afraid. The misuse of data has been Cambridge Analytica and SCL's raison d'etre, so revenge is entirely appropriate. Mercer will either just give up his power-political chicanery or, more likely, just move on to the next format through which he can disseminate his vile views. The only way round this is regulation. Disappointingly for you, the EU is best placed to deliver this, as they've gone furthest down that regulatory route, but it will be presented as the latest attempt at bureaucracy, interference, busy-body, red tape from Brussels.
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
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Multicultural Brum
I doubt they have much choice though seeing as it's their World HQ. It's not easy to move a manafacturing plant, it's not a bank.

So good you said it twice?Or do you have hiccups?If you think Rocester is their only plant in the UK,then you know as much as that faux kraut.:lolol:
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
There is no doubt that when it comes to creating a jpeg and then copying and pasting it into an online forum, you are the master :bowdown: :lolol::lolol::lolol:

Well you definitely prove the old saying 'an empty head makes the most noise',as well as knowing nothing about types of images.:lolol::lolol::lolol:
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
24,596
West is BEST
So good you said it twice?Or do you have hiccups?If you think Rocester is their only plant in the UK,then you know as much as that faux kraut.:lolol:

Right. Where did I say it is their only plant in the UK? I said Rocester is their World HQ.
Why do you think I didn't think they had other plants? As far as my knowledge goes they have something like 20+ in Europe alone.
I doubt you knew a damned thing about them before you stumbled upon the news item you so proudly posted about.
 






Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Right. Where did I say it is their only plant in the UK? I said Rocester is their World HQ.
Why do you think I didn't think they had other plants? As far as my knowledge goes they have something like 20+ in Europe alone.
I doubt you knew a damned thing about them before you stumbled upon the news item you so proudly posted about.

Then why did you post about not moving their plant?Twice
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Then why did you post about not moving their plant?Twice

I'm sorry. I'm really not following you. I think you are reading too much into my posts.
But don't fret about trying to explain again. I'm really not very interested.
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
There is no doubt that when it comes to creating a jpeg and then copying and pasting it into an online forum, you are the master :bowdown: :lolol::lolol::lolol:

I particularly like the one he's chosen as his avatar, depicting the flag of the very Union that he is very likely to destroy, together with a pair of the smart new French passports.
 
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