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[Football] Hemed - Marmite player



Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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For someone who has not had a lot of game time thought he did really well. He probably scores that chance with a bit more match sharpness. I'd start him again at Chelsea.
 




junior

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Dec 1, 2003
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I think it's important to remember that at the moment it is him or Murray, there is nobody else. Murray is hugely out of form and deserves a spell on the bench. By default that means the shirt is Hemed's and his all round game yesterday was enough for me to think he deserves to keep it. Sure he didn't score, but neither has Murray for a while.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Hemed didnt look like he would score yesterday and didnt cause their defence any problems at all, unlike GM who doesnt let them rest. I think that he is ideal to come on late in the game when GM is getting tired or nothing out of the defenders.
 




LowKarate

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Jan 6, 2004
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Hemed didnt look like he would score yesterday and didnt cause their defence any problems at all, unlike GM who doesnt let them rest. I think that he is ideal to come on late in the game when GM is getting tired or nothing out of the defenders.

I sort of agree, but you can just as easily reverse them. Their style is different and Hemed can be more physical than Murray and wear down the opposition defenders, paving the way for Murray to come on and poach a goal in a way that the defenders aren't expecting.

Both of them have had good and average games this season and until we sign anyone that gives us credible alternative options we should deploy them in the games that suit them. How to do that best I am happy to be Hughton's job and not mine.
 




BensGrandad

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I am in the GM first choice camp with Hemed on the bench as IMHO GM is the better player for our style of play but he needs the ball pumped into the box for him to go for. I would still like us to sign a 'fox in the box; type player to play off of either of them as Baldock used to do.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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Murray will always score more than Hemed but if Gross starts scoring with Hemed in the team and combined goal production goes up then run with Hemed.

For perspective I thought £10 mill Andre Gray was anonymous yesterday.
 








Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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I agree about Gray but was surprised they took him off as he is the type of player that can conjure up 1 magic moment to win a game.

The Watford fans didn't seem impressed with the decision to take him off either. (I'm assuming their boos were aimed at the decision to take him off, rather than being aimed at the player or his replacement)
 


LamieRobertson

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Feb 3, 2008
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The Watford fans didn't seem impressed with the decision to take him off either. (I'm assuming their boos were aimed at the decision to take him off, rather than being aimed at the player or his replacement)

Well the boos definitely weren’t at the guy who came on as they cheered him
 
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HastingsSeagull

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Jan 13, 2010
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As discussed previous seasons in the Championship, he's a very nice striker but more an all rounder than pure target man. He can be the more target man like of a pairing but doesn't suit being played up top alone.

I thus agree that while he's almost good enough but not quite for this 'greatest league in the world' and thus a useful player to plenty of clubs within the squad or on the bench, that he doesn't suit OUR situation if playing only 1 up top. One up top IS the right thing for us to do most of the time currently and should we move up the table for a couple years and begin to regularly play 2 strikers, we'll have outgrown his ability.

Hold onto him till the summer incase we go down, then once we have 3 better strikers, sell him to the Championship or a lower half La Liga side. Issue being we only have old man Glenn who's better right now!
 


Originunknown

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Aug 30, 2011
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Hemed always benefits from a run in the team. Given a few starts prior to yesterday he may have been sharp enough to convert one or two of the balls across the box.
 


As discussed previous seasons in the Championship, he's a very nice striker but more an all rounder than pure target man. He can be the more target man like of a pairing but doesn't suit being played up top alone.

I thus agree that while he's almost good enough but not quite for this 'greatest league in the world' and thus a useful player to plenty of clubs within the squad or on the bench, that he doesn't suit OUR situation if playing only 1 up top. One up top IS the right thing for us to do most of the time currently and should we move up the table for a couple years and begin to regularly play 2 strikers, we'll have outgrown his ability.

Hold onto him till the summer incase we go down, then once we have 3 better strikers, sell him to the Championship or a lower half La Liga side. Issue being we only have old man Glenn who's better right now!

........ but Glen isn't better. Not a great penalty taker, gets caught off side too often & that's just for starters ..
 




One Teddy Maybank

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Aug 4, 2006
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I am in the GM first choice camp with Hemed on the bench as IMHO GM is the better player for our style of play but he needs the ball pumped into the box for him to go for. I would still like us to sign a 'fox in the box; type player to play off of either of them as Baldock used to do.

That may be the case on paper, but Murray, since Utd, has been off-form.

Hemed at this moment offers a lot more in terms of movement and teamwork, which was evident yesterday.

Hemed deserves an extended run, as does Izquierdo and based on yesterday’s performance Suttner.


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Is it PotG?

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Feb 20, 2017
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Much more mobile than Murray, but at the end of the day he's there to bang them into the onion bag and his efforts v Spurs and Watford show him to be a little, erm, rusty.

At this level, and for us particularly, chances are pretty rare so when they do come along they need to be converted.
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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That may be the case on paper, but Murray, since Utd, has been off-form.

Hemed at this moment offers a lot more in terms of movement and teamwork, which was evident yesterday.

Hemed deserves an extended run, as does Izquierdo and based on yesterday’s performance Suttner.


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I fail to see that but what I did see was that the crosses put into Hemed were better than they have been for many games. He couldnt capitalize on them but I think that GM would have.
 


WATFORD zero

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I fail to see that but what I did see was that the crosses put into Hemed were better than they have been for many games. He couldnt capitalize on them but I think that GM would have.

Hemed is a lot more mobile and quicker then Murray (It's called damning with faint praise)
 


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