[Politics] Brexit

[ManOfSussex]

Why are you so adamant you want more people coming into this country ,what benefit do you get out of it out
regards
DR

I'm not wanting more people, I'm saying immigration numbers will not discernibly change post-Brexit.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

And when Trump says its going to be a good deal, good for jobs, what do you think he means.

It won't be good for America and Britain, it will only be good for America and will be totally one sided, but the UK will be desperate just to say they have a deal they will take anything.

Also the standing of the UK post Brexit on the International stage will be totally diminished, to a level that the likes of Mexico, enjoy. While we will maintain our position on the UN security council, we will be outside of other major international talks. America will no longer seek the UKs advice on what the EU is thinking, as we are outside of the EU, so they will go straight to Germany or whoever. We will be the ones walking up and down the corridors while the main talks are on going, and then just getting to hear what has been agreed when the press conference starts.

And the other good news from today, courtesy of the Times, car servicing to increase by £70 post Brexit.

Time to get the flags out and have a street party.

At least we can still enjoy the Proms, particularly the closing remarks and music from the first proms that have been occurred. Respect to the musicians and conductors.

you must have sore eyes
regards
DR

 

[JC Footy Genius]

And when Trump says its going to be a good deal, good for jobs, what do you think he means.

It won't be good for America and Britain, it will only be good for America and will be totally one sided, but the UK will be desperate just to say they have a deal they will take anything.

Also the standing of the UK post Brexit on the International stage will be totally diminished, to a level that the likes of Mexico, enjoy. While we will maintain our position on the UN security council, we will be outside of other major international talks. America will no longer seek the UKs advice on what the EU is thinking, as we are outside of the EU, so they will go straight to Germany or whoever. We will be the ones walking up and down the corridors while the main talks are on going, and then just getting to hear what has been agreed when the press conference starts.

And the other good news from today, courtesy of the Times, car servicing to increase by £70 post Brexit.

Time to get the flags out and have a street party.

At least we can still enjoy the Proms, particularly the closing remarks and music from the first proms that have been occurred. Respect to the musicians and conductors.

That all makes rather depressing reading. Is Mexico in the G7, NATO, a top 5 ranked world economy? I am genuinely shocked at your complete lack of faith in our country. We are not seeking a return to Empire or the good old days .. we are seeking the same status as most countries around the world.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I'm not wanting more people, I'm saying immigration numbers will not discernibly change post-Brexit.

really, all you keep banging on about with the other cry baby's is free movement , that equals more people entering the country on the current levels
regards
DR

 

[CheeseRolls]

Do me a favour -
The Good News on Brexit They’re Not Telling You?? Really?

Hannan's journalism sightings from Wikipedia -
Journalism and other work

Hannan has been a leader writer for the*Daily Telegraph*since 1996.[67]*He has also written for various other newspapers, including*The Wall Street Journal, the*Washington Examiner, the German daily*Die Welt, the Swiss weekly*Weltwoche,*The Sunday Telegraph,*The Catholic Herald,*Freedom Today, the*Brussels Journaland*The Spectator.

Bless he really has been repressed by the leftist liberal elites.
Thank god NSC has given him this opportunity, to air his reasonable views.

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[ManOfSussex]

No .....he is an absolute no mark no matter what his view might be, at what point did you think I know 'Ian Dunt' he has some credibility lets quote his blog that'll show them rascal Leave Neanderthals, you will get a pat on the back from Nicko and HT, they'll be a disciple before bedtime ....................

What part of his article do you disagree with in particular to incur your wrath? His view is broadly similar to a family friend of ours who worked as a senior civil servant at The Home Office for many years - statements made today by Downing Street are frankly irrelevant. I know someone who works for The UKBA at Gatwick - morale is non-existent and you may as well believe in fairy-tales if you believe they're ever going to be able to deliver what people thought they were voting for last June, apparently.

If you know better than them, fine.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

That all makes rather depressing reading. Is Mexico in the G7, NATO, a top 5 ranked world economy? I am genuinely shocked at your complete lack of faith in our country. We are not seeking a return to Empire or the good old days .. we are seeking the same status as most countries around the world.

weak deafeatist don't you just love them

regards
DR

 

[BigGully]

I'm not wanting more people, I'm saying immigration numbers will not discernibly change post-Brexit.

So what exactly are you wanting ? the same 300,000+ per annum, how about 200,000, 50,00 and once you have some semblance of a preferable figure how can you possibly then deliver your figure without control of your borders ?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Do me a favour -
The Good News on Brexit They’re Not Telling You?? Really?

Hannan's journalism sightings from Wikipedia -
Journalism and other work

Hannan has been a leader writer for the*Daily Telegraph*since 1996.[67]*He has also written for various other newspapers, including*The Wall Street Journal, the*Washington Examiner, the German daily*Die Welt, the Swiss weekly*Weltwoche,*The Sunday Telegraph,*The Catholic Herald,*Freedom Today, the*Brussels Journaland*The Spectator.

Bless he really has been repressed by the leftist liberal elites.
Thank god NSC has given him this opportunity, to air his reasonable views.

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Amen

 

[BigGully]

What part of his article do you disagree with in particular to incur your wrath? His view is broadly similar to a family friend of ours who worked as a senior civil servant at The Home Office for many years - statements made today by Downing Street are frankly irrelevant. I know someone who works for The UKBA at Gatwick - morale is non-existent and you may as well believe in fairy-tales if you believe they're ever going to be able to deliver what people thought they were voting for last June, apparently.

If you better than them, fine.

Your politics are of the left, you cannot help but see demoralised people its your miserable default setting, love to know your mates UKBA salary and his hours, then lets debate the worth of his particular view.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I'm not wanting more people, I'm saying immigration numbers will not discernibly change post-Brexit.

Really? ... it's already falling and we haven't even left yet.

Net migration falls by a quarter as EU citizens leave UK ...The shift in migration patterns was particularly stark between the UK and eastern European countries such as Poland, that joined the EU in 2004.

https://www.ft.com/content/81b25aa0-4129-11e7-9d56-25f963e998b2

 

[ManOfSussex]

really, all you keep banging on about with the other cry baby's is free movement , that equals more people entering the country on the current levels
regards
DR

The net-migration target, that's never been met, remains unchanged as are Home Office resources. Businesses and public services across all sectors are still wanting immigrants. Perhaps eventually when 'Settled Status' is up and running, which to all intents and purposes is free-movement for EU citizens except they've got to register, EU migration levels to The UK will fall further than they already are and we can look to bring in more migrants from Commonwealth countries as we did years back too, from places like Pakistan and Bangladesh. You'd be okay with that, wouldn't you?

 

[ManOfSussex]

Really? ... it's already falling and we haven't even left yet.

Net migration falls by a quarter as EU citizens leave UK ...The shift in migration patterns was particularly stark between the UK and eastern European countries such as Poland, that joined the EU in 2004.

https://www.ft.com/content/81b25aa0-4129-11e7-9d56-25f963e998b2

I know that - people don't want to come here now from The EU for some reason. If EU nationals won't come here in sufficient numbers as needed once the Settled Status system is ready, we'll look elsewhere. A figure and enforcement of it is all a bit irrelevant though, as I've said.

 

[5ways]

That all makes rather depressing reading. Is Mexico in the G7, NATO, a top 5 ranked world economy? I am genuinely shocked at your complete lack of faith in our country. We are not seeking a return to Empire or the good old days .. we are seeking the same status as most countries around the world.

The insinuation that Remainers are not patriotic or proud to be British is pretty boring. BTW the same status as most countries is poorer than us and weaker than us. It's the big boys who make the rules and they will write trade deals that benefit themselves, not 'most other countries'. Also France has overtaken us thanks to Brexit, cheers leavers.

 

[ManOfSussex]

So what exactly are you wanting ? the same 300,000+ per annum, how about 200,000, 50,00 and once you have some semblance of a preferable figure how can you possibly then deliver your figure without control of your borders ?

We have controls currently - we choose not to use them.

Your politics are of the left, you cannot help but see demoralised people its your miserable default setting, love to know your mates UKBA salary and his hours, then lets debate the worth of his particular view.

I've no idea of his salary, but cutbacks to the service are making it untenable to carry out some functions apparently and hes not alone in considering his future options. Public sector workers though eh - none of them seem happy for some reason.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I know that - people don't want to come here now from The EU for some reason. If EU nationals won't come here in sufficient numbers as needed once the Settled Status system is ready, we're look elsewhere. A figure and enforcement of it is all a bit irrelevant though, as I've said.

People still want to come but more are leaving. Yes we can decide if we want to fill specific skill shortages treating EU and non EU citizens equally.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

The insinuation that Remainers are not patriotic or proud to be British is pretty boring. BTW the same status as most countries is poorer than us and weaker than us. It's the big boys who make the rules and they will write trade deals that benefit themselves, not 'most other countries'. Also France has overtaken us thanks to Brexit, cheers leavers.

I was responding to a specific post comparing us to Mexico .Stop hiding behind 'all remainers' you are not representative of their view. Most remainers accept the democratic will of the majority. Where have I said all remainers are not patriotic or proud to be British?

We are one of the big boys.

 

[melias shoes]

Interesting article elsewhere in The NY Times today, as bit of balance from Daniel Hannan's rose tinted view on the future - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/...hoto-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

What a great read that is. Manufacturing up. Retail up. Heartwarming. It's there in black and white. Remoaners must be devastated.

 

[ManOfSussex]

People still want to come but more are leaving. Yes we can decide if we want to fill specific skill shortages treating EU and non EU citizens equally.

Equality isn't really really going to happen with Settled Status, the geographical proximity of Europe and issues surrounding enforcement though.

 

[5ways]

We are one of the big boys.

this is what it boils down to. I see a club of three; US, China, EU. They will write the 21st century rules as US and UK wrote the 20th C.