jakarta
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These sorts of repeated collapses when set a big (or in this case huge) run chase are not good for Test Cricket.
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Third Test England v South Africa, The Oval, July 27-31
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BensGrandad
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Is this partnership SA main and last hope of saving the game.
No... that was Amla and du Plessis.
BensGrandad
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Bavuma looked ok in the 1st innings and the dropping of Elgar looks like it could be costly
Close of play, Day Four
South Africa 117-4 (38 overs), trailing by 374.
Elgar 72*, Bavuma 16*
A solid day for England with bat and ball, and every chance to wrap it up in the morning/afternoon and take a 2-1 lead in the series.
South Africa 117-4 (38 overs), trailing by 374.
Elgar 72*, Bavuma 16*
A solid day for England with bat and ball, and every chance to wrap it up in the morning/afternoon and take a 2-1 lead in the series.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I hope Anderson and Moeen can sort out this out for the many not the few. 2017 South Africa...................
BensGrandad
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The consolation is that it is very rare that a batsman who has a good day as Elgar has comes out and does the same the next day. I expect him to go without scoring another 20 runs so a couple of wickets before lunch sets us up well as we get into their tail.
This is true, but the wickets yesterday were down to some excellent bowling.
The decleration argument comes up again, due to the point you make above. You can afford to bat a team into mental submission these days because sides cannot bat out 5 sessions withough a hope of winning. You can say Root was right to go on, despite no side chasing over 300 (or whatever it is) at the Oval in a test match.
BensGrandad
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IMHO Root opted for safety first tactics to ensure they didnt win as despite the showing in the 2nd Innings they have some very talented and capable batsmen.
I also think psychologically the thought of going in to bat 100% knowing that you have no chance of winning (like when you need near 500, rather than say 400 which is still very unlikely but a glimmer of hope remains) leaves you massively on the back foot from the start, hence the regular collapses that occur making the 'safe' declarations look way too conservative.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Looks a good batting day. Could be hard work for the bowlers.
TRJ LBW review on Bavuma... definitely bat involved... given not out... but was it pad first?
He's OUT 
Toby Roland-Jones strikes again... what a debut!
160-5
Toby Roland-Jones strikes again... what a debut!
160-5
And that is OUTnext ball... shocking leave... Philander no shot and PLUMB
TRJ on fire
160-6 (50.2 overs)
TRJ on fire
160-6 (50.2 overs)
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Nice one Papa
I'm on a hat-trick
Vernon Philander
Ooooh... he got the edge.... but it didn't carry.... amazing scenes
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
The new ball is going to be all important.
**edit** I'll leave that comment for comedy value! Someone started talking to me about work and I missed two wickets
**edit** I'll leave that comment for comedy value! Someone started talking to me about work and I missed two wickets
If it is needed... it could well be all over before then.