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Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
55,815
Back in Sussex
If I lose just SIX seats then Jeremy Corbyn will be doing the Brexit negotiations, Theresa May couldn't have been much clearer could she so why is she hanging on ?

And Jeremy Corbyn pledged to win the election. How did that work out?
 




LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
46,832
SHOREHAM BY SEA
So how long can a DUP-propped-up coalition of chaos last?

It's a shambles.

By the time of the next vote (whenever that may be) Tory support will be shot to bits for their getting into bed with the DUP. Meanwhile a resurgent progressive vote will be buoyed by the inroads they made this election, more younger voters reaching voting age and more traditional Tory voting older voters dying off.

If the referendum issue in Scotland drops off the agenda then those new Tory seats up there will be sure to go as soon as the opportunity arises. Suddenly all that doom-mongering that Britain would be stuck with the Tories for decades has completely gone and it's actually quite difficult to see where they'd next get a genuine majority.

Its been a long time since this country had a bit of hope in the tank. Turns out we're not done yet

Really? I'd say a fair number of people wouldn't even know who they are.....thats not to say there wouldn't be other reasons

Turn the clock back 6 months and who would have thought that Corbyn would still be leader let alone conduct a 'successful' election campaign....what is that they say about a week being along time in politics
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
55,815
Back in Sussex
Come on [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION]

You cannot deny the ridiculous irony, of the suggestion of the Tory's jumping into bed with the DUP, just two days after their media backers attempted to influence the voting, with hysterical headlines warning of the Labour front bench's (past) contacts with such groups?

I prefer the irony of Sinn Fein's abstentionism helping to keep Corbyn and McDonnell out of number 10 currently if that's ok with you.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Of course not however i wonder how the people on here will react to a Tory DUP alliance after all the shit spouted about Corbyns links with the IRA over 2 decades ago...

My sister was blown half way across Harrods by the IRA.
I dont see the comparison and the calling that the IRA and The DUP are the same.
 














soistes

Well-known member
Sep 12, 2012
2,643
Brighton
Second/last in a two horse race.

Less seats that Kinnock got in 92.

I might need to look up what success means as I clearly have it wrong.

On the other hand ....Jeremy Corbyn has just increased Labour's share of the vote more than any other leader in any other election since Attlee in 1945.

For those (including me) who thought he would really tank, that might be seen as some kind of achievement /success.

It all depends which lens you look at the results through.


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ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,749
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Wheee did May say that?

"The cold hard fact is that if I lose just six seats I will lose this election, and Jeremy Corbyn will be sitting down to negotiate with the presidents, prime ministers and chancellors of Europe."

Or does losing 12 not count or is she just being naughty again?
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,233
Surrey
Wheee did May say that?
She said this:

"If I lose just SIX seats then Jeremy Corbyn will be doing the Brexit negotiations"

So obviously that's something else she's got completely wrong.

On the other hand, I'm not saying Corbyn has proved a triumph but he hasn't used such feeble scaremongering soundbites that could come back to bite him on the arse. Unlike May. Clearly.
 


pocketseagull

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2014
1,065
Theresa May had three years of a majority Government left to play with.

She called an unnecessary election and has massively misjudged the electorate. So yeah, Labour haven't won this time but the tories are the biggest losers of this campaign.
 


pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,335
Second/last in a two horse race.

Less seats that Kinnock got in 92.

I might need to look up what success means as I clearly have it wrong.

Jeremy Corbyn has just increased Labour's share of the vote more than any other leader in any other election since Attlee in 1945

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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,703
The Fatherland
I dug back earlier - you've worn the "champagne socialist" badge with what could easily be interpreted as pride in past years on these very pages. Seemed little point recycling them all though.

I have not worn any champagne socialist badge with pride. It's more that I am not apologetic for the things I do and enjoy and roll with, and play up to, tiresome and tedious comments like this. I'm not one to get angry and I prefer this approach; it works for me. Maybe I'll rethink and just ignore them.
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,832
Hove
Second/last in a two horse race.

Less seats that Kinnock got in 92.

I might need to look up what success means as I clearly have it wrong.

40% of the vote. That is more than Thatcher in '79, same as Blair '05, more than Cameron '10 and '15.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
On the other hand ....Jeremy Corbyn has just increased Labour's share of the vote more than any other leader in any other election since Attlee in 1945.

For those (including me) who thought he would really tank, that might be seen as some kind of achievement /success.

It all depends which lens you look at the results through.


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Dont you think its rather defeatist to consider coming second again as a victory.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
61,429
Chandlers Ford
I prefer the irony of Sinn Fein's abstentionism helping to keep Corbyn and McDonnell out of number 10 currently if that's ok with you.

Not really true though is it? If Sinn Fein hadn't won those seats, WHO would have won them? Sinn Fein not winning them would have meant the Tories (and questionable new chums) had a stronger hand.
 








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