Russia's Hooligan Army.

[wellquickwoody]

Presumably these fellas are still susceptible to a well-luzzed plastic or aluminium chair, or are they resistant to that too? Our boys are ****ed if that has no effect on them.

A well worn Lacoste pastel pullover flaunted with style and panache will ALWAYS see off a chavvy fake D&G T-shirt from a Moscow market, mark my words!

 

[sydney]

The difference is in England we ban lads for standing up for them selves against a mob of Russians and in Russia their politicians applaud and even join their hooligans..

true.......we ( at govt level ) are so frightened of offending anyone.....apart from our own people. i know a few lads who were in marseilles ,there were a lot of retired heads present , most of them with their wives and in some cases family.....the Russians were basically on a wrecking spree.

 

[Bob'n'weave]

European and other countries just don't have the intel on known hoolies that the UK has amassed over decades. Thousands of travel banning orders mean that few, if any organised UK outfits are going to be in Russia, as in France last year. Other countries can probably put together something, and it will be interesting as many of the old eastern block lot have got some pretty heavy previous with Russia in general. Whoever steps up to have a pop, or make a show of strength/unity may find tear gas coming their way followed up by the 'Ultra' Putin Peacemakers wading in.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

Caught the last 20 minutes of that, I don't see why people find the forest fights so shocking. It's just an MMA version of 6-a-side football in the park.

judging by what I have seen advertised as "forest fighting" I wish to lodge a complaint I saw a farmers field, a wasteland area, and a snow covered field.....

Not once did I see a fight in a forest amongst the redwoods, elms, oaks and birch them Russians can talk a good forest, but when push comes shove it's all bollox.

 

[osgood]

the only "good" thing about the docu was that the Stalin fans (in red) got a good hiding . lol

 

[Dick Head]

Just wish we'd boycott it, think just give our pass to the Scots

 

[Stato]

They seem to be basing their whole lives on 'Fight Club'. Shame they missed that you're not supposed to talk about it.

 

[Megazone]

You can tell times must be hard in Russia right now. They can't even afford intimidating masks anymore.

and why has that man got a Hibernian football sock over his face? Bizarre!

 

[Mr Bridger]

Made me laugh that they looked up to the English and wanted to emulate them.

Pre ruck routine:

English = 10 pints and a Henry in the boozer.

Russians = crayfish and fruit tea in a sauna.

 

[heathgate]

I turned it off half way through.... wanted to make sure I missed Stan Colleymore wandering aimlessly around filming live periscope footage shouting #journaliste in a comedy accent at anyone in view.

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[scamander]

You make very reasonable points, but these sort of programmes/the media does inflate the risk. We're veterans of several tournaments (including last summer) and have yet to face any bother.....but we're all getting older and have other people to consider these days. We'll make a decision closer to the time, and on a related note, see how affordable it all is - a category 3 group game ticket(through legitimate channels) will set you back £85

All those previous tournaments were in different countries and at different points in time, I'm unsure if they will allow you to forecast on what Russia holds. I obviously hope that you are safe but my worry is based on the police more than anything. There will be collusion between the Russian hooligans and the police, we also know that the state media will not portray either in a negative light. I cannot think of a tournament which has combined these three and jacked it up further with a very anti-UK attitude.

 

[BBassic]

Caught the last 20 minutes of that, I don't see why people find the forest fights so shocking. It's just an MMA version of 6-a-side football in the park.

Each to their own, they all looked like it makes them happy!

Couldn't agree more. The problem comes when those same blokes go and do the thing that makes them happy with people who don't want to join in.

 

[WonderingSoton]

Perhaps for this one we need to just allow all our banned nutters to travel. 'Accidentally' due to cutbacks in the boarder force of some-such. Look the other way, let our meatheads travel and find and there's, have a ruck and do so in some remote part of Moscow. Leaving everyone else to act reasonably. Let the Ruskies pick on people their own size. Otherwise all that's going to happen is a horrendous time for the families who these days travel with England, who will be targeted as they're sat down to eat in a square, because they'll be the only English over there.

 

[AWAYDAY]

I don't say this lightly but I reckon you'd be mad to go to the World Cup and go out drinking as a group of male supporters. Friends went to Moscow for a Chelsea match and were attacked just walking down the street and in their Hotel. They were not singing, did not have colours but the local mob knew exactly where to find them.

Unlike UK Hools (with a few exceptions) there is no distinction between the average fan and Hooligans. If you go to the World Cup as a make group you'd better be prepared to defend yourself.

I think UK hools need to acknowledge that this lot have taken the 'game' to a new level of violence and play by different rules.

 

[Bob'n'weave]

Perhaps for this one we need to just allow all our banned nutters to travel. 'Accidentally' due to cutbacks in the boarder force of some-such. Look the other way, let our meatheads travel and find and there's, have a ruck and do so in some remote part of Moscow. Leaving everyone else to act reasonably. Let the Ruskies pick on people their own size. Otherwise all that's going to happen is a horrendous time for the families who these days travel with England, who will be targeted as they're sat down to eat in a square, because they'll be the only English over there.

This is a serious worry, as we have already seen exactly this happen in France. Russia has this need to prove itself as the toughest/best at everything, so any English fans in groups sounding off will become a valid target. Doesn't help that the media labels nearly all groups of England shirters as 'hooligans', validating the Putin boys actions, even before the first plastic chair goes airborne.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Vasily the killer.....

Quote:
I am a regular guy grown up on the outskirts of Moscow.
I graduated from a very ordinary Soviet school.
But hooliganism has given me principles and courage.
Some get it from sports, some from prison.......
I get it from hooliganism.
This is a special feeling to get adrenaline, when adrenaline poisons your blood, and if you get this feeling you are on the top of Everest and you can do one anything, and this feeling can be compared probably with an organic and this is fantastic!


He's a regular guy!!
Probably works as a flower arranger, aka Hightower!
If this is all true, even without the hype, all fans of attending nations need to boycott this event.
What's the point of going over to Russia, not knowing your fate or even to keep having to look over your shoulder everything there is a sound.
These feckers need to realise they'll never win.

 

[BlockDpete]

Caught the last 20mins, thought the "forest" fight was a bit weird , kicking the sh*t out of eachother, and then kind of making up after (are you ok?).

Does put me off going to Russia, but then I think back to South Africa and the scare stories of crime and security, which wasn't really a problem in the end.

Could this be the same?

 

[Megazone]

Perhaps for this one we need to just allow all our banned nutters to travel..

Would be interesting to see how the Russians handle Brighton's toughest firm:

 

[Triggaaar]

Me and a fellow seagull are provisionally planning on going for a few days, they can't ALL be LOONS can they?

They don't all have to be loons, it only takes a few loons to come and ruin your holiday / life.

IMO you'd have to be an idiot to go.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

So my understanding after watching is everyday Russians are training to be hardcore fighters, God help us when Putin decides to start concurring countries, we're ****ed. Also you couldn't pay me to go to the world cup or Russia in general

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