Stan Collymore in classless tweet shocker

[NooBHA]

Tim?

Who's Tim?

 

[Triggaaar]

Who's Tim?

 

[SUIYHP]

If Collymore was ever as good at football as he is at talking utter shite he'd have won a Ballon d'Or.

 

[JBizzle]

It really isn't. Thats like saying shut NSC down after another binfest about Baldock.

There's a lot of interesting debate on Twitter, up-to-the-second news, a chance to interact with other fans and journalists, and loads of videos of people having accidents. Anyone who follows STANLOI knows by his very nature he's going to have one of his regular meltdowns at some point and start gobbing off, because the bloke is a weapons grade COCKWOMBLE and just cannot help himself. There's an easy way around it though - unfollow. Just try to follow people who are interesting, amusing, articulate, funny, or ideally a combination of all of those. Twitter is what you make of it.

Huge fan of this turn of phrase... And agree. To be honest, I don't really get that involved in tweeting (comparitively), but it's the first place I go for football news.

 

[El Presidente]

I wonder if there would be the same outrage if he loudly suggested to Leeds fans that Jimmy Saville was one of their own? After all that could be seen as pretty low, particularly during a televised game...










...oh hang on...

But when the North stand sang it it was BANTER.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

not sure you can honestly attribute quality debate to a product that restricts you to 100+ characters. It is what you make it, agreed, but unlike the web, don't most just make a mess of it? At least websites like NSC have rules and moderators usually. Twitter seems to quickly cross the line into legal action. Bit like guns. There's a sizeable bunch of idiots out there so best restrict use heavily! Anyway, it's here to stay and I'm not missing out on anything I'm sure of that. Except arguing with former footballers it seems

You choose who you follow. Ironically, I read more about the foolish people on Twitter from Nsc, than I do on Twitter itself.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

If Collymore was ever as good at football as he is at talking utter shite he'd have won a Ballon d'Or.

He probably was though ! At least for a brief period.
I think at some point people will concentrate purely on what they like on twitter and simply ignore tasteless tweets posted by people who lack social skills. In this way those people will find the space to develop these skills and the world can turn without the continual rounds of outrage and free publicity that currently feed lazy journalists' need for a story...

 

[Doc Lynam]

Remember Stan always keep your cool

 

[Easy 10]

Huge fan of this turn of phrase... And agree. To be honest, I don't really get that involved in tweeting (comparitively), but it's the first place I go for football news.

Feels apt for him.

I'm not a particularly prolific tweeter by any means, and tend to steer clear of the binfests. Although after thanking dirty Leeds for the 3 points last season after we'd just tanked them at the Amex, a (female) Leeds fans memorably replied, accusing me of touching children.

Which was nice.

 

[Buzzer]

But when the North stand sang it it was BANTER.

I think there's a few differences here.

We're all guilty of acting like wallies at football and saying things in the heat of the moment (usually beer-driven) that you wouldn't ordinarily say and not directly to people face to face. I've said things at football that I now wish I hadn't and certainly now wouldn't sing that Savile song. Other people will sing it in the heat of the moment.

Last night though it's clear that Collymore went looking to pick a fight with Derby fans. He was the one who instigated the argument and the one who first went nuclear with that "joke". Fair enough, it's base and a low blow but the Savile chant was just as bad, however Collymore describes himself as 'the best football broadcaster in Britain'. He also describes himself as a journalist, a mental health campaigner and has moralised on many topics on Twitter, in print and on air. He clearly sees himself as an important and influential person and he makes lots of money from it.

So when he starts winding up Derby fans, one of whom makes a fairly innocuous comment and Collymore responds completely OTT with a comment about a Derby fan who murdered his 6 children and then carries on fuelling the fire with more arguments, threats and suchlike you have to wonder if either he is a very bad judge of what is socially acceptable or he deliberately manufactured an argument (coincidentally he recently started a new digital radio show). Either way, he's crossed a line and used Twitter to do it and if a QPR fan can get a lengthy ban for tweeting that he is glad that Knockaert's dad is dead and a young footballer can get the sack for tweeting about another footballer's stillborn son then what price is a tweet from a self-proclaimed senior football broadcaster making jokes about a rival club's fan who murdered his own children?

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

With that kind of reaction to criticism, twitter etiquette and offending particular groups of individuals, he could run for President.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Wife beating c***

 

[BBassic]

not sure you can honestly attribute quality debate to a product that restricts you to 100+ characters. It is what you make it, agreed, but unlike the web, don't most just make a mess of it? At least websites like NSC have rules and moderators usually. Twitter seems to quickly cross the line into legal action. Bit like guns. There's a sizeable bunch of idiots out there so best restrict use heavily! Anyway, it's here to stay and I'm not missing out on anything I'm sure of that. Except arguing with former footballers it seems

You can absolutely make a point on 140 characters or less. And if you can't you send multiple responses. Easy.

That sentence, for instance, is just 110 characters.

 

[Hiney]

Collymore is absolutely DESPERATE to be accepted as an intellectual, whereas in reality, he's just an opinionated bellend.

When he knows there's an audience, i.e. on twitter or the radio etc., he literally cannot help himself and usually ends up making a complete fool of himself.

I'm sure he's ok in a one-on-one situation but give him that platform and he loses what shred of credibility he had.

 

[El Presidente]

I think there's a few differences here.

We're all guilty of acting like wallies at football and saying things in the heat of the moment (usually beer-driven) that you wouldn't ordinarily say and not directly to people face to face. I've said things at football that I now wish I hadn't and certainly now wouldn't sing that Savile song. Other people will sing it in the heat of the moment.

Last night though it's clear that Collymore went looking to pick a fight with Derby fans. He was the one who instigated the argument and the one who first went nuclear with that "joke". Fair enough, it's base and a low blow but the Savile chant was just as bad, however Collymore describes himself as 'the best football broadcaster in Britain'. He also describes himself as a journalist, a mental health campaigner and has moralised on many topics on Twitter, in print and on air. He clearly sees himself as an important and influential person and he makes lots of money from it.

So when he starts winding up Derby fans, one of whom makes a fairly innocuous comment and Collymore responds completely OTT with a comment about a Derby fan who murdered his 6 children and then carries on fuelling the fire with more arguments, threats and suchlike you have to wonder if either he is a very bad judge of what is socially acceptable or he deliberately manufactured an argument (coincidentally he recently started a new digital radio show). Either way, he's crossed a line and used Twitter to do it and if a QPR fan can get a lengthy ban for tweeting that he is glad that Knockaert's dad is dead and a young footballer can get the sack for tweeting about another footballer's stillborn son then what price is a tweet from a self-proclaimed senior football broadcaster making jokes about a rival club's fan who murdered his own children?

I'm not defending Collymore. He shouldn't have said it, there's no defence from a rational person, he should also know that with fame and fortune come responsibility. Having seen his consequent tweets he's backed himself into a corner and is acting like a complete cock.

At the same time I'm genuinely not comfortable with trial of people who post tweets, which as you correctly state yourself, wouldn't be said in a face to face conversation. The QPR fan in relation to Knockaert was a stupid little boy, but IMO didn't need a visit from the police. Andre Gray made a moronic tweet six years ago, it doesn't justify the FA giving him a long ban this season. I've tweeted some crap myself (as well as plenty of posts on NSCand cringed when I've looked at it when calmer.

We seem to live in a world now where reactions are polarised, and there's no sense of proportionality.

 

[spanish flair]

Wife beating c***

He was brought into league football at the impressionable age of 19 by Crystal Palace. So he was probably subjected to throat cutting gestures and offers to fight outside after the game by some of their thick fans we suffer on here. So he did not get a good start to his adult life.

 

[Randsta]

The Katie Hopkins of the football world?

 

[AK74]

The Katie Hopkins of the football world?

Is she partial to dogging too? IIRC, she was once picture rutting in a field, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that her outside interests are similar to Stan's.

 

[Buzzer]

We seem to live in a world now where reactions are polarised, and there's no sense of proportionality.

Oh, I completely with you. A simple apology from that QPR fan would have sufficed and a match ban is, in my opinion, a ridiculous response. The difference here is that QPR fan tweeted it a minute after Knockaert scored and was clearly said in the heat of the moment. Collymore's comments came out of the blue. However we do live in a world where these things are public and I think it's fair that if you describe yourself as the best football broadcaster and you use Twitter for your self-promotion and you make lots of money from it, then the criticism you get when you act like a cock should be equally proportionate.

 

[BBassic]

I'm not defending Collymore. He shouldn't have said it, there's no defence from a rational person, he should also know that with fame and fortune come responsibility. Having seen his consequent tweets he's backed himself into a corner and is acting like a complete cock.

At the same time I'm genuinely not comfortable with trial of people who post tweets, which as you correctly state yourself, wouldn't be said in a face to face conversation. The QPR fan in relation to Knockaert was a stupid little boy, but IMO didn't need a visit from the police. Andre Gray made a moronic tweet six years ago, it doesn't justify the FA giving him a long ban this season. I've tweeted some crap myself (as well as plenty of posts on NSCand cringed when I've looked at it when calmer.

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We seem to live in a world now where reactions are polarised, and there's no sense of proportionality.

That's just the internet though. It's been this way since the earliest days of BBS and such. Text takes away much of the contextual elements of communication like body language, tone of voice etc as well as leaving the reader with no knowledge of the person making the remarks. It also, as in the Andre Gray case, doesn't account for personal growth. I've said some horrible things to people in the past which have been largely forgotten / forgiven over time but if anyone on the wider internet saw those remarks now they'd immediately make a snap judgement call on who I am now based on who I was then.

It's tricky and is part of the way of modern life that won't be going away. As ever the key is to adapt. Some people, dear old Stan for instance, seem incapable of doing so.