Lorry crashes into Christmas Market Berlin.

[Thunder Bolt]

But, as we both know, your experience of immigration is not typical is it? The folks from the hospital may well all be wonderful and good to their mums - I don't doubt it. But what of areas in the country where the whole landscape has changed and where schools and hospitals are struggling. I was in a school recently where they said that the immigrant children who speak no English will each cost them £3000.00. There were only 2 children involved - and so the cost could be relatively "easily" absorbed but what of schools where we might be talking 50%. I doubt very much if you would be so happy with immigration if you were in another area than Sussex. As A M said - it is so nice around the dinner table with all those lovely people feeling good about themselves, darling.

I lived for 32 years in Yorkshire amongst many immigrants and cultures. I learned a lot from them.

 

[portslade seagull]

And the muzzies have us arguing amongst ourselves.

Game over.

That's the truth. I believe this is there aim. The more the respective sides argue the stronger they become through fear

 

[Hastings gull]

I lived for 32 years in Yorkshire amongst many immigrants and cultures. I learned a lot from them.

So you may have done. Others will say exactly the opposite.

 

[Bakero]

On her way to work one morning
Down the path along side the lake
A tender hearted woman saw a poor half frozen snake
His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
"Poor thing," she cried, "I'll take you in and I'll take care of you"
"Take me in tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake
She wrapped him up all cozy in a comforter of silk
And laid him by her fireside with some honey and some milk
She hurried home from work that night and soon as she arrived
She found that pretty snake she'd taken to have been revived -
She clutched him to her bosom, "You're so beautiful," she cried
"But if I hadn't brought you in by now you might have died"
She stroked his pretty skin again and kissed and held him tight
Instead of saying thanks, the snake gave her a vicious bite -
"I saved you," cried the woman
"And you've bitten me, but why?
You know your bite is poisonous and now I'm going to die"
"Oh shut up, silly woman," said the reptile with a grin
"You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in"

a post on Deutsche Weller 'comments' on the atrocity.

You know that's a song, right? I think Trump quoted it during the run up to the election too.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Even at my sons school in central hove it's 50:50 English speaking & English as second language..

BS.

Name the school and link the OFSTED report that confirms it


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[The Rivet]

You know that's a song, right? I think Trump quoted it during the run up to the election too.

No really, I thought it a hymn didn't I!

 

[Guinness Boy]

Even at my sons school in central hove it's 50:50 English speaking & English as second language..

Since you can't use capitals, full stops or apostrophes correctly is English your first language?


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[cunning fergus]

Thanks for that.

Did you hear what Farage was saying RE Cox? I'm used to his ridiculousness but this sounded like he'd been taking notes from his time with the President Elect. Totally over the top.

Farage is verbal click bait, he is now just a proxy for those in the media and politics to project their own views, which tend to be just as misleading.

The Middle East and all of its current problems for Europe can be traced back largely to the actions of Blair and Bush.

Farage may be an obnoxious toad, however he is a saint compared to Blair...........his policies helped create Farage and killed hundreds of thousands.

If people want to save for a court case, that's fine but let's do Tony Blair first.

 

[Chief Wiggum]

I think most posters would agree that controlled immigration - to any country - is essential and generally a positive thing.

What I find hard to understand how any reasonable person can believe that uncontrolled immigration with open borders is a good thing for any country, be they genuine refugees or economic migrants posing as refugees.

Weak governments, with well meaning but naïve policies, have helped create this current situation thereby often generating, resentment, fear and a negative reaction toward immigrants in general.

Is it really, therefore, any surprise to anyone that people are now leaning towards politicians who they believe can change things?

Current governments need to wise up and act. Before it's too late.

 

[Hastings gull]

I think most posters would agree that controlled immigration - to any country - is essential and generally a positive thing.

What I find hard to understand how any reasonable person can believe that uncontrolled immigration with open borders is a good thing for any country, be they genuine refugees or economic migrants posing as refugees.

Weak governments, with well meaning but naïve policies, have helped create this current situation thereby often generating, resentment, fear and a negative reaction toward immigrants in general.

Is it really, therefore, any surprise to anyone that people are now leaning towards politicians who they believe can change things?

Current governments need to wise up and act. Before it's too late.

Good post.

 

[alfredmizen]

Since you can't use capitals, full stops or apostrophes correctly is English your first language?


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Poor GB , poor , you're usually better than resorting to silly grammar policing.

 

[yxee]

And what is it you object to? My use of "them"?

Your general premise that the migrants will not still be here in a few years. They're resettling.

 

[carlzeiss]

Maybe the key is in the phrase "long run"

So how many Muslims does Germany need before it is safe from terrorism ?

Does the UK have enough or are more required ?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Poor GB , poor , you're usually better than resorting to silly grammar policing.

I think picking up poor English in a post about the English language is playing the ball and then going through the man. He's lying so I'm pushing it.

 

[LamieRobertson]

So how many Muslims does Germany need before it is safe from terrorism ?

Does the UK have enough or are more required ?

With reference to your first point she was dithering back in September

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ay-back-down-from-open-door-refugee-policy-a/

 

[symyjym]

Your general premise that the migrants will not still be here in a few years. They're resettling.

That is not what I said

If the Middle East was at peace I am sure that most of them would go back there. I would certainly say that people should live in the country which suits their political view, so any hint of Shariah they should be given a one way ticket.

Peace in the Middle East has to be the starting point to take the pressure off.

I can't see anything objectional with what I wrote

 

[yxee]

That is not what I said

I can't see anything objectional with what I wrote

Looks pretty similar to what you wrote. I object to that because I don't believe people will actually go back. If they were fleeing war, why spend all their money to get from France to the UK? They're not fleeing war, they want to live in the UK.

 

[JCL666]

I'm quite certain the reduction of practising Catholics isn't down to science.

The rest are just comfortable western middle class people who regardless of science probably wouldn't be bothered with religion simply because it gets in the way of their lifestyles.

Practising? you originally said "People either lost their faith or walked away from the churches"

Most studies suggest that the number of Catholics has actually only reduced by a low percentage. Studies also suggest that the most common reason for people turning away from Christian faith is due to the church (and the bible) having an inability to explain what happens in the real world.

There's plenty of stats around if you have a look at Google. None of them back up your earlier statement "Is there a large increase of Muslims becoming atheists or non practising Muslims? This is what has happened in the western world when religions have been immersed in scandals or crimes. People either lost their faith or walked away from the churches."

I'm guessing that you're making assumptions based on what you think should happen due to certain things that have come to light regarding the Catholic church.

 

[symyjym]

Looks pretty similar to what you wrote. I object to that because I don't believe people will actually go back. If they were fleeing war, why spend all their money to get from France to the UK? They're not fleeing war, they want to live in the UK.

Did you not read "If the Middle East was at peace"?

A peaceful Middle East has lots of potential. After Japan was Nuked they rebuilt their country and became a world leader in tech and robotics. The Middle East can design new cities with new innovative building techniques and make use of solar power.

If there is peace in the Middle East there are lots of opportunities for those who want to take part in rebuilding for the future.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Did you not read "If the Middle East was at peace"?

A peaceful Middle East has lots of potential. After Japan was Nuked they rebuilt their country and became a world leader in tech and robotics. The Middle East can design new cities with new innovative building techniques and make use of solar power.

If there is peace in the Middle East there are lots of opportunities for those who want to take part in rebuilding for the future.

When was there ever peace in the Middle East?