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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Is that the distant echo of faraway straws being clutched at?

Re-run the election now.All the lazy tw*ts didn't get up to vote.And Trump should have got more than 60% of the vote,it's not a real win :tantrum:
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,374
So the Clintons try it on and even with DT's own goals, she still cannot command voter confidence, and you want to try it again. The voters showed what they think of politicians perceived to be out of touch, and feathering their own nests, and you want to repeat the whole exercise.

As always, you're on the clown side of the argument. The Obamas are not The Clintons. Not even close.
 


Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,297
I have little interest in the finer depths of politics, let alone American politics but... Isn't Trump a ****?
 


TWOCHOICEStom

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2007
10,593
Brighton
Ignore the obvious point.

In reference to your question. Yes, more so than Clinton. At least we don't have to worry about going to war with Russia and Iran!

Would you have been happy with Clinton getting presidency?

The one and only point I have is that, from what I know (and I think I'm well enough informed), Donald Trump is a terrible fit for President. From his personal traits, the way he's run his businesses to his views on women. I do not think he should be in that oval office making decisions which will impact millions of people.

I don't like Clinton a great deal either. But I think she would have been a better President.

Basically, I think the US deserved two better candidates than the ones they got.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,585
West is BEST
Are you aware Obama was calling for amendment limiting free-speech rights?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-calls-amendment-limiting-free-speech-rights

Ah yes. Unfortunately these crackpot sites read anything as "an attack on the amendments" or an "attack on our very constitution". This appears no different. Reminded me of that chubby American chap who shouts on the radio a lot and buddied up to Russell Brand last year and rowed with Piers Morgan, his name escapes me. Angry fella, likes guns.
 




Hastings gull

Well-known member
Nov 23, 2013
4,635
I think some people get so overwhelmed by their default setting of "all people in power are evil and up to no good" that you cannot see when someone has actually done some good. Obama is one of the good ones.

There is merit in what you say, I do agree. Obamacare clearly has helped millions of folk, but having read so many of your posts, that is your default line, if the person happens to be right wing.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,374
There is merit in what you say, I do agree. Obamacare clearly has helped millions of folk, but having read so many of your posts, that is your default line, if the person happens to be right wing.

Why do you always play the man rather than the ball? And always do it so badly?
 




Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
You mean these guys?

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And this is why Trump won. Not because of the red part though but because of the ****tard liberal SJWs in the blue zones who think belittling people will make them support their views.

That's why Trumps win is a massive **** you to the Liberals.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,585
West is BEST
There is merit in what you say, I do agree. Obamacare clearly has helped millions of folk, but having read so many of your posts, that is your default line, if the person happens to be right wing.

I'm not with you. Who am I against that is right wing? I'm not against Trump if that's what you mean? I didn't want him as president but I didn't want Clinton either. I think America got the best deal considering what was on offer and I quite like his stance on ISIS, even though he is clueless and it'll rile terrorists up.

I wasn't setting up a LvR situation. Somebody suggested Obama had done nothing and was a warmonger, I believe differently.
 


Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
The one and only point I have is that, from what I know (and I think I'm well enough informed), Donald Trump is a terrible fit for President. From his personal traits, the way he's run his businesses to his views on women. I do not think he should be in that oval office making decisions which will impact millions of people.

I don't like Clinton a great deal either. But I think she would have been a better President.

Basically, I think the US deserved two better candidates than the ones they got.

I think Trump becoming President was voted by people who are becoming anti-establishment. The people of the U.S have had enough of the same old failed politics they see time and time again.

All this sexist, failed businessman etc talk is a way of side tracking us from what is really going on in the U.S. Besides, Clinton hardly stands as role model for women. I bet Bill hasn't even pulled his pants up yet.
 




lost in london

Well-known member
Dec 10, 2003
1,785
London
I just wish everyone would calm the fvck down. The collective BEDWETTING everywhere is truly something to behold, especially online. We're all getting absolutely covered in floods of PISS. You'd think the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse had just arrived.

Its only POLITICS. Its all just neverending bullshit and rhetoric, business as usual. The sun will still rise in the morning. Food will be on the shelves. Water will be in the taps. Your train won't arrive. Manu will be offside. Nothing much ever changes, and stuff that does, well just crack on. Just get up, hug your kids, tut at the news, have a cup of tea, sigh, and get on with life.

I get where you're coming from, but the fact is there's a president who ran on a platform that was openly misogynistic and racist. His election has normalised those viewpoints and given them the President's stamp of approval. That's what I find most disconcerting.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
God no. Please, no more gesture politics (of which Michelle O seems to be queen at) and no more attempts at political dynasties.

If she ran , they would without doubt drag up and quote her saying " this is the first time I've ever been proud of this country" when her husband won the nomination, that alone would finish her, one thing Americans won't stand for is language like that.
 


Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
Ah yes. Unfortunately these crackpot sites read anything as "an attack on the amendments" or an "attack on our very constitution". This appears no different. Reminded me of that chubby American chap who shouts on the radio a lot and buddied up to Russell Brand last year and rowed with Piers Morgan, his name escapes me. Angry fella, likes guns.

Nibble, you do realise the source was from CNS news :facepalm:
 




carteater

Well-known member
Jan 1, 2014
4,825
West Sussex
It's a ****ing irritating result. But as I said with Brexit. Its a perfectly legitimate result from a Democratic election. Voice your frustration about it for a bit. And move on. Because months of complaining and protesting is not going to change anything.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Why do you always play the man rather than the ball? And always do it so badly?

Come on Tom, that's a bit rich after you just said "as always you're on the clown side of the argument " :lolol:
 


Hastings gull

Well-known member
Nov 23, 2013
4,635
As always, you're on the clown side of the argument. The Obamas are not The Clintons. Not even close.


Yes, true to form, with the usual insult, unpleasant element thrown in, and pompous statement, never far from: I know best. I did not claim that they are. The electorate is world-weary of politicians who they think love the idea of power, and this will surely be seen as yet another example, irrespective of her strengths or otherwise. Another attempt at a political dynasty -don't you ever learn? You think she is formidable, and so she must be - simple, because you think so.
 






Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Brexit, Trump (magnitudes worse), Le Pen wins, Merkel loses, NATO crumples, and the EU crashes and burns. Could well be dark dark times ahead.
Brexit - Set in stone.

Trump - Can be managed with pragmatic diplomacy, and reminding him how great he is ?

Le Pen wins - who cares ?

Merkel loses - who cares ?

NATO crumples - not certain. Trump wants members to pay their fair share. Reasonable ?

EU crashes and burns - no longer our concern.


Dark times ? The sun still comes up for now.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,585
West is BEST
Nibble, you do realise the source was from CNS news :facepalm:

If you're addressing me please don't use another users name, it's extremely childish. Anyway to address your concerns. You can use as many facepalms as you like it won't make CNS credible. Or to give it it's full name Conservative News Service. They are a right wing news organisation set up by Leo Bozell who among other things is a hard right Christian activist, one time president of Parents Television Council, a director of the hard right American Conservative Union, doesn't believe in contraception and is a pro-lifer.

The same Leo Bozell whom on December 22, 2011, appeared on Fox News and stated that President Barack Obama looks like a "skinny ghetto crackhead".

Hmm. You will have to try harder to make your sources credible. But don't bother on my account, I'm not entering into a drawn out debate fuelled by crackpot news sources and conspiracy sites.
 


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