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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,089


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,792
Gods country fortnightly
I think we are in a weak and vulnerable position and other countries are going to feast on that. We are not bargaining from a position of strength. She's on a hiding to nothing. I should feel sorry for her but I don't. I feel sorry for the less well off who are going to bear the brunt of the price inflation heading their way to add to their problems caused by austerity.[/QUOTE

Hard to disagree with this, whether the government are forced to show their hand for negotiations or not our position is not good

Its going to take a lot more public borrowing to prop up the economy during uncertain times. But Farage did say it not all about GDP growth, we will all be poorer but happier...
 




pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,438
she can only mean ending single market membership.

So why doesn't she say it then, she seems to be saying an awful lot, but not that?!

She has stated the blindly obvious 'Brexit means Brexit' and 'we will invoke Article 50' etc. but this, why not?
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
So why doesn't she say it then, she seems to be saying an awful lot, but not that?!

She has stated the blindly obvious 'Brexit means Brexit' and 'we will invoke Article 50' etc. but this, why not?

Perhaps she thinks this is also blindingly obvious as it was clearly stated by numerous main players from both sides in the campaign. Or was worried that stating it openly would further spook the markets.

:shrug:
 


pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,438
Perhaps she thinks this is also blindingly obvious as it was clearly stated by numerous main players from both sides in the campaign. Or was worried that stating it openly would further spook the markets.

:shrug:

She has stated all the other blindingly obvious stuff though?

It was clear that voting to leave the EU would mean that Article 50 would have to be invoked, it doesn't get much more obvious than that, but she has still told us that she is going to do it!

Like I said, its what she isn't saying that is more interesting and telling.

Believing what a politician is saying is a dangerous game at the best of times, let alone believing what they aren't saying!
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I would be interested to know from the people who voted she doesn't know what she's doing would have expected to see her do after becoming PM that would have changed their opinion.
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
She has stated all the other blindingly obvious stuff though?

It was clear that voting to leave the EU would mean that Article 50 would have to be invoked, it doesn't get much more obvious than that, but she has still told us that she is going to do it!

Like I said, its what she isn't saying that is more interesting and telling.

Believing what a politician is saying is a dangerous game at the best of times, let alone believing what they aren't saying!

I would hope any savvy politician is careful to keep as many options open as possible and give little away pre the most important negotiations in this countries history.

Agree believing politicians is problematic but she has far too much to lose if she reneged on her comments in that speech. See Boris,Davis,Fox, Tory implosion.
 




Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,165
Crawley
Yep, I'm quoting May saying that in April 2016, prior to Brexit, we have control of our borders; something she says she wants in September 2016, post Brexit.

Well in her mind we already have control, so on that basis nothing will necessarily change.

I think she is saying she wants control of immigration now, she was saying control of borders previously, which we do have control of, just not the power to refuse entry to EU citizens.
JC is correct in that it is highly unlikely the EU will allow that and to remain in the single market, but as we know, Parliament will have a say about this matter, and parliament may decide that freedom of movement is a price we may be willing to pay for continued free trade in the EU.
Not only is it going to be impossible to please the 48% who wanted to remain, it is going to be very difficult to please half of the 52% that wanted out.
 






Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,165
Crawley
I would be interested to know from the people who voted she doesn't know what she's doing would have expected to see her do after becoming PM that would have changed their opinion.

I am one such person, I believe appointing anyone other than Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, would have gone some way to softening my opinion.
 








beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,477


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Wonder when this thread will get merged? :) JC, what is so upsetting to you about "free movement" seems to be a real bone of contention for you personally?
IF WE WANTED FREE MOVEMENT WE WOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE EU, THE VOTE WAS OUT SO MAKES SENSE TO END FREE MOVEMENT ............
regards
DR
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,799
Rape of Hastings, Sussex












Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
You thicko right-wing boot-boy thugs won't succeed in goading me.

Well,as a Lib-Dem voter,I'm almost offended by that.Keep on practicing,you might grow a personality,as well as a sense of humour,as you move towards adulthood!
 


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