Southern Rail STRIKE details

[crookie]

Genuine question. I use Southeastern when going to London, often there is a conductor/ticket inspector on, sometimes not, do Southern always have a guard on every service to open the doors ? In the many years I've been travelling I've never been aware of an incident concerning the doors being closed whether or not there was another employee on the train. I also assume the staff on Southeastern are unionised ?

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[Bozza]

Any excuse to blame the bloke sitting in his little room playing Candy Crush.

Fixed for you.

 

[BN9 BHA]

It's funny how Lewes Council and the Feds have been trying to stop people going to Lewes for years because of overcrowding and rowdyism and now they're having a pop at the RMT for stopping people going

Feds?

 

[Hastings gull]

It's funny how Lewes Council and the Feds have been trying to stop people going to Lewes for years because of overcrowding and rowdyism and now they're having a pop at the RMT for stopping people going

A very convenient question. I don't think they have been actively stopping people though concern about over-crowding may well have been the case. Lewes council certainly have not stooped to the level of cynicism we are now witnessing.

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

Just don't give us this pious hypocrisy. In pursuit of their aims the workers, as you put it, chose this night with quite deliberate cynicism. You reap what you sow.

You most certainly do.


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[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

Fixed for you.

Ooh,the power....


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[beorhthelm]

Genuine question. I use Southeastern when going to London, often there is a conductor/ticket inspector on, sometimes not, do Southern always have a guard on every service to open the doors ?

no, the Metro (London local ) services have DOO for years.

 

[synavm]

Getting home tonight was atrocious- second three and a bit hour journey home this week. TBH, I'm all out of sympathy for the RMT. They've no regard for fellow workers having spent about a month on strike this year and have intentionally impacted bonfire night (harming many charitable fundraising events in the process). Doesn't make Southern blameless at all - I think they've handled all of this terribly, their refusal to hire and train the staff needed following the big merger is at the root of all this and they should have their franchise removed with absolutely no compensation paid, but on the same token, I'm not on RMTs side either.

As far as I see it now, it's about fighting for union influence as the era of automation begins to affect our public transport system. I may be missing something, but I'm struggling to see how DOO can be so unsafe when so many very high profile operators have been doing it for so long without a hitch. I'm also cynical of the big concern over safety given the way I've seen Southern staff handle legitimately dangerous situations- Tuesday at Haywards Heath Station for example.

 

[Chicken Run]

When are the next round of strikes, I'm assuming the RMT have selected strategic dates that will heap the maximum misery on the general public, just think what could be achieved if those dinosaurs actually thought about getting the public completely on their side, at the moment I hold them with the same level of contempt as I do as those shit bags at Southern!

 

[Chicken Run]

Strike this morning.

I just shrugged my shoulders and got on the first train that took me up to London. Yes it was full, yes I was a bit later but I still made it and everyone at work knew where I was because they know where I live. I'll leave a bit earlier tonight to make sure I get home but no one has a problem with it.

Its what I've been doing for a few months now. Others will work from home, some will catch Thameslink from other stations, but commuters have now learnt to deal with the strikes one way or another. I would suspect the RMT is moving strikes to bank holidays and non commuting days because the train users on these days will be less immune to the problems and a more likely to create noise. The press will be all over it because there'll be loads of distressed people who won't be able to get "home" to see their families over Christmas.

Its one of the few cards the RMT has left to play. Unfortunately, commuting remains the bread and butter of the rail industry and the strikes are becoming less and less effective in that respect.

Keep striking Mick - but you're just not causing me problems anymore.

I'm assuming he's causing his members issues such as less wages each month!

 

[Diablo]

I'm assuming he's causing his members issues such as less wages each month!

lets hope so....he seems to me like the bosses at southern..Pig headed and overpaid.

 

[Beach Hut]

When are the next round of strikes, I'm assuming the RMT have selected strategic dates that will heap the maximum misery on the general public, just think what could be achieved if those dinosaurs actually thought about getting the public completely on their side, at the moment I hold them with the same level of contempt as I do as those shit bags at Southern!

All details here

http://www.southernrailway.com

 

[Ernest]

When are the next round of strikes, I'm assuming the RMT have selected strategic dates that will heap the maximum misery on the general public, just think what could be achieved if those dinosaurs actually thought about getting the public completely on their side, at the moment I hold them with the same level of contempt as I do as those shit bags at Southern!

You know what ? Who cares what you think

 

[Frutos]

You know what ? Who cares what you think

Sums up the RMTs (and SASTA's) attitude to passengers in a nutshell.

 

[dazzer6666]

You know what ? Who cares what you think

The RMT clearly don't give a flying **** what the passengers think. That's very clear now.

 

[Chicken Run]

You know what ? Who cares what you think

You care ****y, thought you had me on ignore you sad little no mark[emoji23]

 

[alfredmizen]

It's doing damage WAY beyond intra-industry squabbles now. This continual crock of shit is killing the regional economy, destroying the work/life balance of countless thousands of families, causing people to lose their jobs and I'm pretty much sure tipping some people over the edge into mental illness. Beneath contempt that our elected representatives don't slap these cvnts down bigtime and replace them with a company that can at least pretend to be arsed to run trains up and down a straight sixty mile piece of track to a given timetable.

Spot on.

 

[Sorrel]

As another commuter to London I'd say people are adapting to the strikes and general cancellations now it's become the new normal. I can't speak for others, but I would have thought no one particularly likes either Godiva or the RMT, but can probably live with the occasional strikes we have now. Both sides are not willing to compromise - Godiva are obstinate, while the RMT seem vindictive towards the public. It would be a satisfying conclusion if they could both feel like they have lost, if there ever is a conclusion.

If the train drivers strike it will make a difference. The drivers and the guards could co-ordinate their strikes so that neither loses too much pay, but in a way that would cause the most harm to those who want to travel. That might make a difference and force a resolution.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

"Our members on Southern are rock solid in support of the action this morning in the fight to stop the basket-case GTR franchise from ripping apart the safety culture on our railways in the drive for ever fatter profits. " Mick Cash. [1]

It is about safety. Well, at least what they say publicly anyway.

[1] https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/mick-cash-on-the-southern-rail-picket-line/

They would say it publicly. They almost have to. However these latest round of strikes are cynical and designed to cause maximum carnage TO ME AND THOUSANDS of others. Its always been about job protection but they wont admit it because then people will think well if you dont like it leave...after all thats how the modern world works.

And they wanted support from the public. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA not a chance you absolute cretins.

 

[Bozza]

Appreciative of the strike today. We were running late for Worthing's Kids Run Free. Ordinarily I'd head for the Teville Gate bridge to get over the railway line but as it was a strike day I headed for West Worthing crossing, feeling confident that there was little chance of being made to wait for a train.

I got straight across and we got to the event just in time.

Thanks RMT - big help today.