[Politics] Brexit

[studio150]

Sad response to a long and considered post. Wouldn't it have been better to have responded to one or two of the questions raised?

Not untypical though from those wanted out when questions are raised that they don't want to answer because the correct answers will be difficult for them to digest,

 

[smeg]

Do you genuinely believe that the current nose-dive in the pound is not primarily down to a lack of confidence in sterling caused by the current Brexit situation?

Seems like such a simple question to answer but I suspect our resident 'leavers' will just resort to insults or some cut and paste article from the Mail or Express

 

[BigGully]

Seems like such a simple question to answer but I suspect our resident 'leavers' will just resort to insults or some cut and paste article from the Mail or Express

I think you will find it has been answered, it doesnt necessarily follow that just because an answer does not agree with your answer to the same question that it didnt get answered.

In its one dimentional context its not much of a question anyway ...........................

 

[Lincoln Imp]

I don't understand the bit in brackets. Do you mean the vote in the referendum? How does that vote IDS and and friends into power for a long time ? We have a General Election in 2020. All Labour has to do is provide a credible alternative. The fact they are not is completely independent of the Referendum result.

It's not contentious to say that the referendum result has led to a situation where the Tory right seems to be dictating the most significant part of the government's agenda. Fox and Davies are in the driving seat, supported by IDS and others and allowed to do so by an apparently supine Theresa May. They could stay in power at least until 2020 and probably until 2025 which is quite a long time. The effects of what they do may well be with us for a lifetime. Much of this is still avoidable if those who wanted to avoid it were prepared to stand up and fight. They don't appear to be. This will please many people of course, but I don't think I withdraw my bit in brackets.)

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Depends upon how you define right wing. I define it as support for a capitalist organization driven by the low wage interests of multinational companies. There has been a lurch to the Right in all three main parties in this regard. Perhaps you should be considering the possibility that Labour voters haven't changed at all in their natural suspicion of the corporate interests that Labour's elite have sided with. As for populist, that's just code for working class and yes a lot of Labour voters have always been from this background. That has always been distasteful to the middle class metropolitan leaders of the party. Rather than look down on its voters in this way perhaps the leaders should instead seek to represent them or stand aside ?

Well done for attempting to define right wing.

However much we try to explain it I believe that most people voted in the referendum for pretty visceral reasons and for many Leave voters those reasons included a general pissed-offedness with the people in charge of their lives. Having said that, I don't think that any significant recent political events have been caused (except on the fringes) by Labour voters having always had a 'natural suspicion of the corporate interests that Labour's elite have sided with', unless you include the growth of Momentum.

I used the word populist in the sense of political movements driven by motherhood and apple pie emotions such as patriotism, independence, standing-on-your-own-two-feet, common sense and suspicions of strangers. I certainly didn't intend the word to be code for working class. Apologies if I used it in the wrong way.

 

[Two Professors]

Sad response to a long and considered post. Wouldn't it have been better to have responded to one or two of the questions raised?

Feel free to cry as much as you like!It was just a load of waffle about democracy being a religion,and a load of theoretical questions about the number of people who understand laws.What that has to do with Brexit,I am obviously too thick to understand.Please enlighten me in as few words as possible,if you can.

 

[Two Professors]

Not untypical though from those wanted out when questions are raised that they don't want to answer because the correct answers will be difficult for them to digest,

Wonder where we might have picked up that habit from.As lies about figures keep on being raised on here,how about one of you moaning minnies telling us what has happened to all that guff about £4300.You all seem remarkably quiet about that,recession,World War 3,plagues of locusts etc.Put up or shut up

 

[hans kraay fan club]

The head of the WTO has just publicly stated that Brexit will not cause a disruption in trade.

Well it won't will it? People / companies / nations will still need to trade stuff.

Brexit won't disrupt trade in the sense that it will (obviously) continue, but it will sure as eggs, affect which nations do the bulk of that trading, and the terms under which they do so.

 

[portslade seagull]

You're not answering my question

I'll ask again

Do you genuinely believe that the current nose-dive in the pound is not primarily down to a lack of confidence in sterling caused by the current Brexit situation?

No !!! All the negative press and doom slayers have though

 

[BigGully]

Well it won't will it? People / companies / nations will still need to trade stuff.

Brexit won't disrupt trade in the sense that it will (obviously) continue, but it will sure as eggs, affect which nations do the bulk of that trading, and the terms under which they do so.

Thats correct, but perhaps worth offering the figures on bulk trading and how this might translate into negotiating those terms, even when accepting the yet to be determined challenges, the figures shouldn't immediately offer the outcome you seem to be suggesting.

44% exports from the UK to the EU and that has been declining primarily because our exports to other non EU countries have been increasing at a faster rate.

53% imports from the EU to the UK, this has stayed steady for the past 15+ years.

The European Commissin itself has said ''over the next 10 to 15 years, 90% of world demand will be generated outside of Europe.

 

[alfredmizen]

Well it won't will it? People / companies / nations will still need to trade stuff.

Brexit won't disrupt trade in the sense that it will (obviously) continue, but it will sure as eggs, affect which nations do the bulk of that trading, and the terms under which they do so.

You never replied to my post on the edge "sweaties at it again " thread , you posted


"Don't blame them, one little bit. They voted strongly for Remain, and don't want huge decisions about the future of their nation being taken with no regard to their wishes."

I asked if you saw the Irony in that post , do you ?

 

[studio150]

Wonder where we might have picked up that habit from.As lies about figures keep on being raised on here,how about one of you moaning minnies telling us what has happened to all that guff about £4300.You all seem remarkably quiet about that,recession,World War 3,plagues of locusts etc.Put up or shut up

£350m for NHS? is probably where you picked it up

 

[studio150]

I am obviously too thick to understand.

 

[studio150]

The head of the WTO has just publicly stated that Brexit will not cause a disruption in trade.

Other than going from free trade to tariff trade

 

[BigGully]

Other than going from free trade to tariff trade

2015 exports to the EU from the UK were £223 billion whilst our imports from the EU were £291 billion, it makes for interesting negotiations and not necessarily on the punitive terms you seem so keen to have us believe.

 

[Soulman]

Wayne Rooney’s downturn in form blamed on Brexit.
Benched England captain and Man Utd forward Wayne Rooney has told reporters his downturn in form is due to the effects of Brexit.
Rooney, who thinks he’s either 30 or 31, says things haven’t been the same on the pitch since the UK decided to sever its ties with the economic and political union which was originally based on the Maastricht Treaty, and had the aim of the eventual establishment of common economic, foreign, security, and justice policies.
“And Theresa May keeps sayin’ that Brexit means Brexit, and to be honest with you, I always thought Steve Bruce was a fantastic manager. He’ll do well at Villa,” Rooney told reporters.

After the vote in June and England’s disastrous Euros campaign, Rooney was said to be devastated when he found out Iceland had their EU application rejected.

“I know it’s cold up that way, but I was told their application got frozen. Like in the post or somethin’.”

Things haven’t been going well for Rooney on the pitch since the referendum result was announced, managing just 2 dribbles a game, and a further 5 from his mouth.

He’s been benched for both club and country, but that extra thinking time has meant the divisions exposed by Brexit have played on his mind even more.

“Politics was never my thing really, and I never wanted it in football, but Jamie Vardy’s been texting me every week since telling me he’s glad the beuru… beaura…- beauro….red tape’s gone.”
Rooney has also been making headlines in recent weeks with his stance on the refugee crisis, after suggesting we should be taking Syrians in, but only if they pass a medical and are on a free transfer.
“It’s somethin’ really for the gaffer, but if we take eleven of them at a time, who knows how many World Cups we could have by 2050.
“Maybe like 10. You don’t want the French getting’ any of that.”

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

We're still adjusting to the fact that our local county councillor has resigned from UKIP.

or the fact that we're leaving the EU at some point
regards
DR

 

[studio150]

Wayne Rooney’s downturn in form blamed on Brexit.
Benched England captain and Man Utd forward Wayne Rooney has told reporters his downturn in form is due to the effects of Brexit.
Rooney, who thinks he’s either 30 or 31, says things haven’t been the same on the pitch since the UK decided to sever its ties with the economic and political union which was originally based on the Maastricht Treaty, and had the aim of the eventual establishment of common economic, foreign, security, and justice policies.
“And Theresa May keeps sayin’ that Brexit means Brexit, and to be honest with you, I always thought Steve Bruce was a fantastic manager. He’ll do well at Villa,” Rooney told reporters.

After the vote in June and England’s disastrous Euros campaign, Rooney was said to be devastated when he found out Iceland had their EU application rejected.

“I know it’s cold up that way, but I was told their application got frozen. Like in the post or somethin’.”

Things haven’t been going well for Rooney on the pitch since the referendum result was announced, managing just 2 dribbles a game, and a further 5 from his mouth.

He’s been benched for both club and country, but that extra thinking time has meant the divisions exposed by Brexit have played on his mind even more.

“Politics was never my thing really, and I never wanted it in football, but Jamie Vardy’s been texting me every week since telling me he’s glad the beuru… beaura…- beauro….red tape’s gone.”
Rooney has also been making headlines in recent weeks with his stance on the refugee crisis, after suggesting we should be taking Syrians in, but only if they pass a medical and are on a free transfer.
“It’s somethin’ really for the gaffer, but if we take eleven of them at a time, who knows how many World Cups we could have by 2050.
“Maybe like 10. You don’t want the French getting’ any of that.”

Totally pointless and not even midly humourous,

 

[Soulman]

Totally pointless and not even midly humourous,

Are you going to comment on everything i post. You are not "midly" humourous ether.

 

[studio150]

Are you going to comment on everything i post. You are not "midly" humourous ether.

I don't please keep up