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Would you change your referendum vote?

Would you change your referendum vote?

  • Yes! I would change my vote

    Votes: 8 2.9%
  • No! I wouldn't change my Vote

    Votes: 270 96.4%
  • I won't vote

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • My mind has been changed but i am sticking with my original vote

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    280
  • Poll closed .


The Fifth Column

Retired ex-cop
Nov 30, 2010
4,029
Escaped from Corruption
Just woken up, have we? FTSE250 down 7%. Volatile times ahead. Only one certainty. Jeremy Corbyn. :)

Don't you just love cherry picking a statistic to try and prove your argument. Down 7% on what and over what timeframe - the timeframe that suits your argument best I guess.

Its easy to do watch - The FTSE 250 is currently 824 points higher than it was on Feb 11th 2016, thats a rise of 5.4%! Its 1776 points higher than it was on 15th Oct 2014 a rise of 12.3%, its 2730 points higher than it was on 24 Jun 2013 a rise of 20.5%!! Its 4969 points higher than it was on 16th Mar 2011 a rise of 45%!!! So over the long term its doing rather well and continuing to do so but hey that doesn't suit the argument so we'll ignore it.
 




John Byrnes Mullet

Global Circumnavigator
Oct 4, 2004
1,192
Brighton
Well we know at least 48% of the U.K are whinger's and bad losers. So I keep my vote to leave because these are the sort of people are keep telling me it's good to be in the EU.
 


NooBHA

Well-known member
Jan 13, 2015
8,586
I don't want to change. BUT -- I don't want others to change either. I WAS REMAIN

BUT

It is what is now

If it turns out that LEAVE is the right thing to do then so be it. It isn't but I want democracy to take it's course..

We need to go with what the populous wanted. I don't want it to be ''I told you so'' I want it to be a success but already, the stock market has wiped billions off investment funds. That means that anyone retiring in the coming months have a very much reduced pension.

Lets hope that Improves for others in the future.

I don't want a new vote. I just wish the campaign could have been fought differently
 


Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,870
West west west Sussex
Well we know at least 48% of the U.K are whinger's and bad losers. So I keep my vote to leave because these are the sort of people are keep telling me it's good to be in the EU.

I wonder how those 48% of the Uk would categorize all of the other 52% :whistle:
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
12,982
Don't you just love cherry picking a statistic to try and prove your argument. Down 7% on what and over what timeframe - the timeframe that suits your argument best I guess.

Its easy to do watch - The FTSE 250 is currently 824 points higher than it was on Feb 11th 2016, thats a rise of 5.4%! Its 1776 points higher than it was on 15th Oct 2014 a rise of 12.3%, its 2730 points higher than it was on 24 Jun 2013 a rise of 20.5%!! Its 4969 points higher than it was on 16th Mar 2011 a rise of 45%!!! So over the long term its doing rather well and continuing to do so but hey that doesn't suit the argument so we'll ignore it.

I didn't have an argument. I was pointing out that he was late in noting the ftse100 was up and that the 250, which has the companies more linked to the UK economy rather than global, was down in the same frame time he was referring to. An obtuse link to the fall in sterling. As an aside I would not even dream in letting you know what that will do to our Current Account Deficit.

Go and cherry pick someone else's statistic. As someone not working due to investments I have an interest in financial markets.
 






NooBHA

Well-known member
Jan 13, 2015
8,586
Nothing has actually changed yet though, which is why the market has bounced back after the news of the result. Once we actually invoke Article 50, and the details of what leaving the EU actually means you will see the markets fall pretty drastically again, with no guarantee that they'll come back.

Markets and Sterling haven't risen. They may have got out of their trough but they have not risen from what they were before the referendum.
 






Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,870
West west west Sussex
Using only one word............That's the hard part but I would go with ''self-preservationists'' Couldn't find one that wasn't hyphenated

Judging by the remit laid down in the highlighted post, it would seem you can have as many as 4 words to categorize 52% of the United Kingdom.
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
61,457
Chandlers Ford
A sacrifice means you give up something , the Poles were invaded, they didnt have a choice as to whether they sacrificed peace , nor did the Russians , who we all know were pally with the Germans via the Von Ribbentrop pact until they were stabbed in the back , the Poles and Russians didnt make a SACRIFICE we DID , we had a choice , we DID sacrifice peace to come to the aid of the Poles .

Who mentioned 'sacrificing peace'? Sorry, but you don't get to choose what I meant by sacrifice. You really need to be a very special kind of belligerent keyboard warrior, to use semantics to argue with someone's suggestion that 6 million dead Poles, or Belarus seeing a quarter of its population wiped out, represent sacrifices.

Are you suggesting that we did not free the Italians from the Fascists and the Germans from the Nazis?Even with assistance from others,after a while.That we didn't bankrupt the country for 60 years,buying and leasing war materials from the USA?What a bizarre form of British history they teach nowadays.

I've literally no idea what the point of this reply is.

1. Yes, whatever the eventual outcome, I'm completely sure that we didn't flatten Dresden to 'save' its residents.
2. We made huge sacrifices in human and financial terms. Who are you arguing with?
3. What has teaching 'nowadays' got to do with anything.
 






El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,716
Pattknull med Haksprut
Nope. Voted remain but the democratic decision was to leave so I believe we should accept it.


Sent from Konnie Huq's lingerie drawer.
 






Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,987
Crawley
those selfish pensioners have had to put up with the shite from Europe since they tried to federalise it it ratherthan leave it as a trading group
I suspect that others seen one of the European masters yesterday complaining that they will not wait until the tories have chosen another leader, but did'nt mind waiting until we saved their arses in two world wars losing two generations of our young men
so whose the selfish ones there then

It is this sort of bollocks about WW1 and WW2 that keeps us separated in Europe. Nearly twice as many French lost their lives in WWI and WW2 as British.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,987
Crawley
Without derailing the thread, this is a valid point. The NHS is a humungus cashcow, a top-heavy trough awash with cash for middle-to-senior management and penpushers. What they spend on recruiting and then paying these parasites in wages, bonuses and pension schemes is absolutely mindboggling. If 1/10th of those funds was diverted to the doctors, nurses and to front line services, there would never be any such thing as an NHS crisis.

So if we had a referendum to bin the NHS, or stick with it, which way would you go?
We can all see the benefit of having an organisation that has saved countless lives, but it is quite expensive and I am sure we could go it alone, a lot of people would be ****ed now but it would be better in the long run if we all had private health care, surely?
 


ExmouthExile

Well-known member
Feb 11, 2005
1,801
I chose "No, I wouldn't change my vote", but I want to change that to "I won't vote" because a second referendum would make an absolute mockery of our so called democratic system and I would therefore see little point in voting again when my original vote obviously counts for nothing. I voted out and now I'm basically being dictated to, to change that vote to remain, well they can fvck right off and if there is a second referendum then I will never vote again.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,987
Crawley
A sacrifice means you give up something , the Poles were invaded, they didnt have a choice as to whether they sacrificed peace , nor did the Russians , who we all know were pally with the Germans via the Von Ribbentrop pact until they were stabbed in the back , the Poles and Russians didnt make a SACRIFICE we DID , we had a choice , we DID sacrifice peace to come to the aid of the Poles .

You ****. If they had a referendum in 1939, tackle Hitler, yes or no, you would be one of the ***** voting to leave them to it. **** me, you don't have a ****ing clue.
 




Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,987
Crawley
I'm with you on that. It gets my goat how one particular nation is very anti-uk, considering what we have done for them in both wars.

If you are referring to our French brothers, despite having been at war with them more often than not over the last 500 years, French soldiers held the lines whilst our lads and a large number of French bugged out of Dunkirk, we then bombed the shit out of their ports and sunk their navy, including the sailors. From their point of view, we then left them occupied by the Nazis for 4 years before having another go.
 


Rugrat

Well-known member
Mar 13, 2011
10,215
Seaford
I voted LEAVE; I'm very pleased I did; I would do the same again.

The FTSE 100 is back almost to where it was last Thursday. The £ is recovering. So much for all the doom-mongers.

As for £350m more going to the NHS. The organisation needs to control its current costs, not be given even more money to fritter away.

And does anyone really believe that Scotland or Northern Ireland will leave the UK so that they can be controlled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels?

I'm not too sure that looking at the markets 5 days later is a particully strong argument, although no doubt Farage and Co will likely use it to claim that they were right and millions of half wits will nod their heads

I'd rather see where we are in 5 years, even then we'll likely never know. If it all goes tits up no doubt we'll hear it was the right thing to do but just done badly, or Europe turned us over etc
 


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