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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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The Birdman

New member
Nov 30, 2008
6,313
Haywards Heath
Key words.

Systematically
Collectively
Contingency
British are fundamental strong
We are open for business
Completely focussed
Stabilise
Accept and deliver.

Sounds positive to me, how do the bed wetters feel???
He needs these words to calm the market otherwise if they continue to go down he would have take action which none of us would like. Well done George
 




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Is that a serious comment. Perhaps you should ask that famous Leave supporter, James Dyson why he took manufacturing to Malaysia. If we want to manufacture again then we need to do it as cheaply as they do overseas so maybe you can kiss the living wage goodbye!!! Alternatively, you need to manufacture in a niche market but I'm sure it wouldn't take long for other countries to cotton on.

No businesses need to stop being so bloody greedy, and we need to pay a bit more, that is truth of it.
We are more than capable of creating our own wealth in this country. The Germans have a healthy manufacturing base, so why can't we.
 
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clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
no one thinks hes a serious contender, hence 28-1. he has little public appeal and even among conservatives and MPs he hasnt set the world alight. austerity chancellor that failed to deliver any actual austerity, doesnt stick to policy, screws over others at the drop of hat. remember some of the cutting remarks after last autumn budget, one MP asked why they had won a conservative government but had a socialist budget.

I agree, apart from the austerity quote.

A lot of people are in poverty due to austerity that he has brought upon them.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Technically, no it wasn't.

However some (the majority?) of the leave vote will have assumed that it was (particularly given how it was sold by the Brexit team) and voted on that basis.
No 'technically' about it.

The question we voted on was absolutely whether we stay in or leave the EU.

Nothing else. Details are for negotiation.
 
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KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
20,041
Wolsingham, County Durham
I listened but am not sure he said anything other than the UK is open for business and we are not coming up with any plans until the Autumn. Great stuff.

Nicola Sturgeon seems to be the only one coming up with plans and ideas at the moment.
 






withdeanwombat

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2005
8,706
Somersetshire
So, the only change is Boris for Dave in the Tory cat fight.

Oh, and total chaos in financial markets and the break up of the U.K.

Oh, and a reminder that politicians have a different concept of truth and lies than the electorate.

Perhaps the only ones who got it right were the 28 percent who couldn't be arsed to vote.
 






smeariestbat

New member
May 5, 2012
1,731


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,144
Burgess Hill
No businesses need to stop being so bloody greedy, and we need to pay a bit more, that is truth of it.
We are more than capable of creating our own wealth in this country. The Germans have a healthy manufacturing base, so why can't we.

Fine sentiments but I suspect they are not the sentiments that turned James Dyson into a multi billionnaire!!
 


Dorset Seagull

Once Dolphin, Now Seagull
I agree here. especially the party about manufacturing in the UK. Why not start to produce goods and services in the countries/areas that they are going to be used. Save money on transport and movement, increase employment and save the environment. It is a win win win. A political party offering this sort of simple logic to provide growth would get my vote.
The problem is that we would never be able to compete with countries that have lower wages and overheads so our goods would be more expensive. Then you would need to apply tariffs to imports as a protectionist measure so the UK population would be paying more for those goods etc etc etc
 




Pevenseagull

Anti-greed coalition
Jul 20, 2003
19,852
no one thinks hes a serious contender, hence 28-1. he has little public appeal and even among conservatives and MPs he hasnt set the world alight. austerity chancellor that failed to deliver any actual austerity, doesnt stick to policy, screws over others at the drop of hat. remember some of the cutting remarks after last autumn budget, one MP asked why they had won a conservative government but had a socialist budget.

You might want to consider getting a dictionary and looking up 'austerity'.
That said, I agree that he has absolutely no chance of becoming Tory leader.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,719
Gods country fortnightly
No businesses need to stop being so bloody greedy, and we need to pay a bit more, that is truth of it.
We are more than capable of creating our own wealth in this country. The Germans have a healthy manufacturing base, so why can't we.

If we want one it will take decades, but I would be nice. Britain is essentially a one trick pony, rising house prices and financial services
 


severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,549
By the seaside in West Somerset
Anyone who was concerned that the referendum showed what Little England Xenophobes we really are can now rest easy.

Boris has spoken and is of the clear view that people didn't vote on the basis of immigration at all




...........so no need for all those Turkish scare stories or pictures of queues of migrants then!
 
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heathgate

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Apr 13, 2015
3,551
Yep I agree with you in this context.

I think it's more efficient to evolve standards together though. I am pretty sure that we have led the way in many of the EU standards, not least in the building industry.

Are we going to try and keep all the EU policies that suit us and then find out in the end that we fall 95% in line with the EU anyway?
We will simply apply the common sense approach, all the standards agencies will operate as normal.. as most of them did before we entered the EU... but if course they have matured since then and new standards will be applied with a British and common sense consideration but also with in the context of what is required to export or import products.

So in summary, not much change in content, just some adjustment as to who sets and manages said standards.

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severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,549
By the seaside in West Somerset
In other news politicians in France are looking to revoke the Le Touquet agreement.
This will mean we cannot do immigration checks in the French channel ports so all those migrants who have been held in 'The Jungle" and other camps will be free to board ferries etc to the UK.
As the French will be free to refuse to take them back we will have to deal with them.


So that's working out well then.
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Boris has spoken and is of the clear view that people didn't vote on the basis of immigration at all

Boris is a complete twunt but he could well be right here. According to ComRes, the majority of voters across the political spectrum said their primary reason was taking back control of the decision-making. Immigration was some way behind in second place.

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http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/
 






pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,384
Are you seriously suggesting that some Leave voters may well have been hoodwinked????

Well it would appear a number (around 49% as I write this) of Brexiters have been hoodwinked.

Either that or their fervent desire to curb immigration clouded their judgement.
 


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