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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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pigbite

Active member
Sep 9, 2007
553
Well I wasn't going to sell our home anyway, but now my children have a better chance of buying their own home.

Really? Just how much will house prices have to fall to make them properly affordable to the many young people wanting to own their own home without also plunging many "decent, real" people into negative equity? Let's not even think about large increases in interest rates. Sure, many home owners can ride a drop of 10% even 20% for a few years but that's not nearly enough to make housing truly affordable. What will leaving do about the many young people that are caught in a trap where high rents are preventing them from saving.

I really hope I am wrong but this is a great example of where the rhetoric of the Leave campaign has hoodwinked people into thinking that by voting leave somehow they are voting for a system that will be more equitable for all, as if suddenly people like Johnson, Gove and Farage are going to care to about the average person on the street in a way they never have before. Leave or Remain, the majority of people in this country have been dumped on by politicians for decades. That has nothing to do with the EU and I see no evidence that is going to change at all.

If all the people who voted leave really, really thought that the country will be better off in the long term then fine - that's democracy. I get the distinct feeling however that there are a sizeable number who simply wanted to protest about Westminster and never imagined that their single vote would ever make a difference, after all it's never made a difference before. Well, in this case it has done something. It's all combined to send us out. And we will still have leaders that really don't care about what happens to anyone other than their mates.

I'm not worried that the sky is going to fall down, we will move on. But I don't for one minute think that we shall get anything near the level of benefits promised by Leave and suspect there will still be masses of disillusioned people 5 years, 10 years down the line.
 






The Clamp

Well-known member
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Jan 11, 2016
24,601
West is BEST
No immigrants, legal or otherwise will be deported because of this. However, plenty of white English people I know now have very nervous times seeing what this means for their work. Including me.
 


ofco8

Well-known member
May 18, 2007
2,389
Brighton
or what you tell them?

Accept it, the majority of the British people have made their decision. Some are going to be happy, some are not. That is democracy which is above all else.
 














The Clamp

Well-known member
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Jan 11, 2016
24,601
West is BEST
Interesting to see some folks who got so worked up over this topic they actually got banned now calling for calm and telling people what is and isn't mature behaviour.
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,508
Haywards Heath
I am assuming we are ok for 2 years, but after that all bets are off, it will be done to the euro sceptics to negotiate with a europe that currently hates them.

Negotiation is going to be handled by the incumbent government government and civil service, so it's most likely going to a majority of europhiles. It's two years from when they invoke article 50. I think most will agree that's a good thing.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
61,462
Chandlers Ford
HKFC The voice of reason..............Don`t sound like it to me.

Thing is, if YOU are NOT a gullible div - if you didn't believe that we were about to throw £350m a week at the NHS, or that we were about to be over-run by 70m Turks, then you've no reason to be offended. The comment was not aimed at you.

Taking the Leave vote as a whole though, and indeed (sadly) the entire UK electorate as a whole, 'we' have voted to turn our backs on Europe. Ridiculous and insulting to now pretend that we love them really.
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,226
Goldstone
I am concerned about the future for our country, we really need to come together to get what's best for the UK.

Sure, some that voted out would have been racist idiots, but they were the minority. The majority of us want a good relationship with Europe, and we need to be united in that.
 


The Antikythera Mechanism

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Aug 7, 2003
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Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,226
Goldstone
Taking the Levae vote as a whole though, and indeed (sadly) the entire UK electorate as a whole, 'we' have voted to turn our backs on Europe. Ridiculous and insulting to now pretend that we love them really.
Not at all. We turned our back on the EU, not on Europe.
 




daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
I am concerned about the future for our country, we really need to come together to get what's best for the UK.

Sure, some that voted out would have been racist idiots, but they were the minority. The majority of us want a good relationship with Europe, and we need to be united in that.

Have to make the best of it, although, Im doubtful of a pretty outcome.
 


Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
Uncharted territory, but I don't think the Germans/French will cut their noses off to spite their faces. We import more from Germany/France than they do from us.

Germany: 2014 figures: We export $46.5 Billion and import $100 Billion (Trade)

France: 2014 figures: We export $27 Billion and import $41 Billion (Trade)

http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/gbr/

EU will take a very hard line with us in negotiations, they don't want other member states to think that anyone leaving gets an easy ride.
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
I don't expect gullible divs to think at all. I expect them to do what Rupert Murdoch tells them.

If that was a dig at me,I don't care what bitter losers say!Has world war 3 started yet?:)
 




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