Airbus tells UK employees a vote to leave EU could make it rethink future

[Westdene Seagull]

Of course it will. And Europe will lead the way.

You mean like they did with the migrant crisis ? Or maybe like they did with Iraq ? Or indeed like they did with the mad cow issue ? Or even like they did with the banking crisis ? Or like they did with Russia invading the Crimea ? Or like they did with the issues in Libya ? Or like they did with the ISIS challenge ? Hmmmmm ..... if that's taking the lead then it's a no thank you from me.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I don't doubt you.........but removed from the thread I have been, and the Brussels one.........not had the courtesy of being told why.

I must admit I was a little surprised to hear your comical posts got you a ban. That said, I know some people are terrified of clowns.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

You may ....... think that the majority of scots actually want to join the euro, but the evidence from the referendum is very clear........they don't.

This is some leap of faith you're making. This is almost as ridiculous as your tiresome pro-EU=Tory logic. The self-styled cunning one

 

[worthingseagull123]

We can get Boeing to build a factory over here then.

They make better aircraft.

Also why not get our aircraft industry back on track? Before the days of the EU we had a fine and proud aircraft industry.

 

[cunning fergus]

I must admit I was a little surprised to hear your comical posts got you a ban. That said, I know some people are terrified of clowns.

Yes, me too, my general approach to posting is never to be more smug and supercilious than you, so I certainly couldn't have been banned for that as you are still posting on that basis.......

 

[Machiavelli]

You mean like it did when banks across the EU needed bailouts ? Or even whole countries needing bailouts such as Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain, Cyprus and Ireland ? Yes, being in the EU really helped stopped those countries going into financial meltdown !!!!! As for your pathetic 'Little Englanders' jibe - I thought better of you but I guess pro-EU people always show their true colours eventually.

Morning Westdene. By big finance, I'm referring to the kind of thing exposed by the Panama papers, and what went on during the recent financial crisis was more down to policy decisions rather than institutional structures.
As regards little England, be careful what you wish for, because a leave vote will lead to the break up of two unions.

 

[cunning fergus]

This is some leap of faith you're making. This is almost as ridiculous as your tiresome pro-EU=Tory logic. The self-styled cunning one

Well not quite Margret, the polls the SNP commissioned in the run up to the referendum indicated only 7% of Scots wanted to join the euro, as a consequence the SNP abandoned a long held policy for independence........to abandon the pound.

No doubt this very small group in Scotland share a similar frenzied belief that Brussels is best and would follow the direction of the the EU off a cliff. Thankfully the majority of Scots have open minds and felt more secure with sterling.

Thankfully, logic won out versus belief.

 

[cunning fergus]

The evidence from the referendum was that 45% wanted independence, and 55% didn't, up from 30-70 decades ago. Everything else is your speculation according to your anti-EU agenda.
The polls I'm referring to relate to Scottish opinion on the EU, and how Scottish opinion will develop if (little) England votes to disband one Union.

I don't know how old you are, and I don't want to be patronising but seriously this is pretty basic stuff, so I will spell it out simply for you.

For about 10 years the SNP advocated joining the Euro......Salmond was certain it was part of the strategy for independence.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ip-is-a-strong-argument-for-independence.html

Then, after the Greek crisis and the associated Eurozone debacle, he went decidedly cold on the idea and turned 180 degrees by advocating that an independent Scotland would keep the pound. He was right to do so as in 2014 the polls indicated only 7% of scots wanted to join the euro........all good so far.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scottish-i...rency-back-alex-salmonds-demand-pound-1460812

The SNP lost the referendum, so the scots didn't swallow the SNP exaggerated benefits of oil or that Scotland could be effectively independent whilst (little) England held the purse strings.

If there is a referendum following Brexit, it is absurd to seriously consider that the scots who only recently rejected splitting the UK, rejected the SNP's exaggerated benefits of their oil would now vote for independence to join the EU and the euro alone.

The SNP will always threaten that the scots want independence, but on this matter up north after their U turns and lies they are a busted flush. They will remain an anti Labour vote till such time as Labour returns to its roots and supports the traditional working class, and sadly that may be never.........

So, stop being silly and find another frightener.

 

[alfredmizen]

Carry on in fantasy land on that one. Vote leave wins and wave bye bye to Scotland. Then the little englanders will be able to say that we've got the tenth, eleventh, twelfth, ... largest economy and we'll really be able to sort out all these trade deals to our benefit. Meanwhile the world keeps spinning

It's you who's in fantasy land if you think Scotland will vote to leave , they couldn't manage it last time on the back of a surge of Mel Gibson inspired patriotic fervour and a Brent price north of $ 100 , they certainly won't be stupid enough to vote for it with it where it is now.

 

[alfredmizen]

Thank you for proving my point. FYI, the 1850-2010s one is the most relevant.

You've talked about tackling climate change going forward, and how the EU is the best institution to do this, what on earth has historical data got to do with that ?

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

i dont know what else to say.

if you believe forming global partnerships is isolationist then we are at an impasse

So a vote to leave the EU is a vote for closer global integration

 

[daveinprague]

Some people are going to lose their minds on here when the referendum votes to stay in the EU. Need to stock up on Pringles and smarties.

 

[Buzzer]

Some people are going to lose their minds on here when the referendum votes to stay in the EU. Need to stock up on Pringles and smarties.

You really are one for hyperbole, aren't you Dave? People disagree with someone then apparently they're offended, if someone loses a vote then they will lose their mind. You? You can't stand up for laughing all the time. The reality? If we lose the referendum then nothing changes. It's not exactly mind-blowing and seeing as the Remain vote had a lead of double figures a month or two back, it won't come as a shock either - IF it happens.

As for Pringles and Smarties, I reckon if we looked at the proportion of threads people contribute to that end up getting moved, you'd come out with the highest percentage.

 

[daveinprague]

You really are one for hyperbole, aren't you Dave? People disagree with someone then apparently they're offended, if someone loses a vote then they will lose their mind. You? You can't stand up for laughing all the time. If we lose the vote then nothing changes. It's hardly mind-blowing.

As for Pringles and Smarties, I reckon if we looked at the proportion of threads people contribute to that end up getting moved, you'd come out with the highest percentage.

People disagree and they are: Philbys', Self Loathers, Neo Liberals, hate the working class etc..
yeah, its a one sided thing on NSC eh.
Have you commented on people using these rather ridiculous terms?
Call somebody a name back... as slight as permanently offended, and people get a little precious.


No, its not mind-blowing, but when I read posts on the subject, I can only imagine how certain people will react on NSC.

More of my posts get moved? I doubt that.
Calm down.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

And yet the Inners can't detail what staying in looks like - how does the aim of greater political and economical integration look in say 5 or 10 years time for the UK ? I'm yet to see any pro-EU person detail this.

Politically your man David Cameron covered this in his charade negotiations before the campaign began. There will no more closer political integration with the EU. Economically, I don't know, you will have to Google it or listen to proper pro-EU campaigners talk about it.

I am still waiting for some POSITIVITY, all I have seen so far is accusations of negativity and then actual negativity. Hardly a campaign of hope.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

You really are one for hyperbole, aren't you Dave? People disagree with someone then apparently they're offended, if someone loses a vote then they will lose their mind. You? You can't stand up for laughing all the time. The reality? If we lose the referendum then nothing changes. It's not exactly mind-blowing and seeing as the Remain vote had a lead of double figures a month or two back, it won't come as a shock either - IF it happens.

As for Pringles and Smarties, I reckon if we looked at the proportion of threads people contribute to that end up getting moved, you'd come out with the highest percentage.

I think he's right in a sense becasue it's a cause that really matters to some people. There's no remain equivalent of Cunning Fergus for instance, that kind of person who links every topic back to their crusade.

 

[Buzzer]

People disagree and they are: Philbys', Self Loathers, Neo Liberals etc..
yeah, its a one sided thing on NSC eh.
Call somebody a name back... as slight as permanently offended, and people get a little precious.

No they don't! It's only in your mind. No-one gets precious about your insults.

No, its not mind-blowing, but when I read posts on the subject, I can only imagine how certain people will react on NSC.

And your default position is that people will be in a right old state.

Calm down. Wait for the referendum

There you go again. I am calm.

 

[GT49er]

It's you who's in fantasy land if you think Scotland will vote to leave , they couldn't manage it last time on the back of a surge of Mel Gibson inspired patriotic fervour and a Brent price north of $ 100 , they certainly won't be stupid enough to vote for it with it where it is now.

......and of course, following a Brexit, it would be a big leap of faith for the Scots to assume they'd be allowed back in anyway.

 

[alfredmizen]

People disagree and they are: Philbys', Self Loathers, Neo Liberals, hate the working class etc..
yeah, its a one sided thing on NSC eh.
Have you commented on people using these rather ridiculous terms?
Call somebody a name back... as slight as permanently offended, and people get a little precious.


No, its not mind-blowing, but when I read posts on the subject, I can only imagine how certain people will react on NSC.

More of my posts get moved? I doubt that.
Calm down.

Do you EVER put a post up without editing it 5 minutes later ?

 

[daveinprague]

Do you EVER put a post up without editing it 5 minutes later ?

sometimes